Wikipèdia:Tavèrna dels non-occitanofòns/Archius

Archiu de la Tavèrna dels non-occitanofòns abans novembre de 2014Modificar


Hola. Perdoneu que us escrigui en català. Quan pugueu, mireu el comentari que he fet a Discutir:Catalonha (region). Moltes gràcies.

Besonh d'ajuda / Call for HelpModificar

My name is Amnon Shavit, I'm from Tel Aviv, Israel. I do not speak Occitan, but owing to my basic knowledge of French, Spanish (Castilian) and Portuguese, I manage to understand a certain portion of it (when written. I don't really know how it sounds).

As part of my study for a Master's degree in Geography, I'm currently researching Regional (as opposed to National) Identities of Europe, focusing on the use of web 2.0 applications, such as Wikipedia, as a means of promoting such identities.

I would like to gather some information regarding your language and the cultural identity related to it. Therefore I'd be grateful to anyone who can provide me with such information and discuss some ideas and issues openly. Please contact me, preferably in English, through my discussion page, or by email: amnon.shavit (at) gmail (dot) com. Needless to say, all communication is for academic purposes only. Mercé per avança --Amnon s 25 de set de 2007 a 09:54 (UTC)


Bonjour. Je travaille dans le wiki breton sur quelques prénoms, en ce moment br:Carol et br:Charles et toute la famille, bientôt br:Nicola(s), et br:Nicole. . Je suis tombé dans le wiki français sur fr:Nicole (Lot-et-Garonne): Nicole est une commune française, située dans le département de Lot-et-Garonne et la région Aquitaine. Je n'ai pas trouvé la forme en occitan. Question: quelle est-elle? Avez-vous un annuaire des communes d'Occitanie en occitan? Réponse souhaitée sur ma page. br:Implijer:Bianchi-Bihan Merci. Bianchi-Bihan 30 de set de 2007 a 05:58 (UTC)

J'appelle à l'aide les Occitans et les OccitanesModificar

Bonjour à tous et à toutes. Il y a eu une proposition de fermeture du wiki-projet occitan "oc.wikibooks", comme vous pouvez le voir là:

J'appelle à l'aide tous les Occitans en âge de combattre et toutes les Occitanes aptes à manier le glaive pour sauver le Wikibooks écrit dans notre langue millénaire: l'occitan.

La meilleure façon de contrer cette proposition c'est d'écrire quelques articles de plus en occitan dans le wikibooks occitan. Cela démontrerait que le projet n'est pas moribond, et on pourrait clouer le bec à nos assaillants.

J'ai confiance en vous.

Meilleures salutations


Betawiki update :)Modificar

  • Currently 98.97% of the MediaWiki messages and 99.87% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising and proof reading at Betawiki. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 10 de set de 2008 a 11:25 (UTC)

Bonjour !Modificar

Bonjour à tous et toutes,

Je ne parle très bien l'Occitan mais j'ai envie d'écrire sérieusement des articles avec le reste de mes connaissances et mon dictionnaire.

Excusez-moi par avance s'il y a des fautes mais je fais ce que je peux et j'espère que des wikipédiens vont m'aider...

A bientôt !

--Paul Munhoven 17 de set de 2008 a 10:01 (UTC)

Betawiki updateModificar

  • Currently 100.00% of the MediaWiki messages and 100.00% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising and proof reading at Betawiki. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 10 de nov de 2008 a 13:41 (UTC)

The LocalisationUpdate extension has gone liveModificar

The LocalisationUpdate extension is now enabled for all Wikimedia projects. From now on new localisations that become available in SVN will become available to your project within 24 hours. Your localisations get into SVN from typically within a day and at worst in two days. This is a huge improvement from the old practice where the localisations became available with new software. This could take weeks, even months.

The localisations done by our community at are committed to SVN typically every day. When the system messages in English are the same as the local messages, they will now be inserted in a file and are available for use in all our projects in a timely manner

What this means for youModificar

Local messages have an impact on the performance of our system. It is best when messages are as much as possible part of the system messages. In order to remove unnecessary duplication, all the messages that have a local localisation and are exactly the same as the system message will be removed. What we ask you to do is to compare and proof read the messages in and the local messages. You can then either remove local messages when the message is to be preferred or, you can update the message at

Messages that are specific to your project will have to stay as they are. You do want to check if the format and the variables of the message are still the same.

Why localise at translatewiki.netModificar

When you localise at, your messages will be used in all Wikimedia projects and eventually in all MediaWiki based projects. This is how we provide the standard support for your language. When messages change, at you will be prompted to revisit your translations. Localising is more efficient because we have innovated the process to make you more efficient; there is text explaining about messages and we have applied AJAX technology to reduce the number of clicks you have to make. updateModificar

  • Currently 99.96% of the MediaWiki messages and 99.41% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising and proof reading at This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM (d) 30 setembre de 2009 a 13.37 (UTC)
  • Currently 100.00% of the MediaWiki messages and 98.08% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising and proof reading at This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM (d) 8 decembre de 2009 a 13.03 (UTC)
  • Currently 100.00% of the MediaWiki messages and 95.32% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Please help us help your language by localising and proof reading at This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM (d) 18 genièr de 2010 a 14.28 (UTC)

How can we improve the usability for your languageModificar

We expect that with the implementation of LocalisationUpdate the usability of MediaWiki for your language will improve. We are now ready to look at other aspects of usability for your language as well. There are two questions we would like you to answer: Are there issues with the new functionality of the Usability Initiative Does MediaWiki support your language properly

The best way to answer the first question is to visit the Change the language to your language, select the “vector” skin and add the advanced tool bar in in the preferences and check out the new functionality. And make some changes in your user page. When there is a need to improve on the localisation, please make the necessary changess . It should update your localisation straight away. We would like you to report each issue individually at

When there are problems with the support of MediaWiki for your language, we really want to know about this. It is best to report each issue separately. In this way there will be no large mass of issues to resolve but we can address each issue on its own. Consider issues with the display of characters, the presentation of your script, the position of the side bar, the combination of text with other languages, scripts. It is best to try this in an environment like the prototype wiki as it provides you with a clean, basic and up to date environment. The prototype wiki is available for five languages but you can select any of them, change the preferences to your language and test out MediaWiki for your language.

We would like you to report each issue individually at The issues you raise will all be assessed. It is important to keep each issue separate, because this will make it easier to understand the issues and find solutions.

PS This text has been approved by Naoko, Brion and Siebrand. Thanks, GerardM (d) 30 setembre de 2009 a 13.37 (UTC)

Rei Momo uèiModificar

Merci, mes amis, pour la traduction de cette page, mais... manque == Rei Momo uèi == Quelq'un peut la traduire?

Grazie, miei amici per la traduzione, ma manca questa parte == Rei Momo uèi == Qualcuno può tradurla?

Utilizaire Rei Momo - Wiki.FR

Utilizaire Rei Momo - Wiki.IT (d) 20 novembre de 2009 a 12.18 (UTC)

Rei Momo uèi 2Modificar

Merci, mes amis, pour la traduction de cette page, mais... manque == Rei Momo uèi == Quelq'un peut la traduire?

Grazie, miei amici per la traduzione, ma manca questa parte == Rei Momo uèi == Qualcuno può tradurla?

Utilizaire Rei Momo - Wiki.FR

Utilizaire Rei Momo - Wiki.IT (d) 2 decembre de 2009 a 08.54 (UTC)

Rei Momo uèi 3Modificar

Merci, mes amis, pour la traduction de cette page, mais... manque == Rei Momo uèi == Quelq'un peut la traduire?

Grazie, miei amici per la traduzione, ma manca questa parte == Rei Momo uèi == Qualcuno può tradurla?

Utilizaire Rei Momo - Wiki.FR

Utilizaire Rei Momo - Wiki.IT (d) 3 decembre de 2009 a 11.15 (UTC)


hi, I am NJD and I would like to help Wikipedia enlarge it's collection on the Occitan language by using the open source software Apertium. I am planning to convert articles from the catalan language to the Occitan language. (messatge pas signat de (d))

N'ei pas ua bona idèa, l'arrevirada automatica ei luenh d'èster utilizadera shens ua revision umana. --— Joan Francés B. (me´n parlar) 24 novembre de 2010 a 08.35 (UTC)
Bon dia,
Perdona per açò... en el projecte Apertium tenim unes regles per treballar amb la Wikipedia i sembla que el estudiant no els ha llegit. No sé si pots llegir açò però tenim una tasca per a estudiants que sàpiguen occità i volen ajudar a la Wikipedia en occità. Si coneixeu algun estudiant que l'agradaria treballar en açò per favor dis-li-ho. Altre cop perdona, - Francis M. Tyers (d) 24 novembre de 2010 a 09.15 (UTC)

Can you help us please ? Besonh d'ajudaModificar

Hello. We are looking for someone who could translate and upload on oc.wikipedia this page. This artistic movement started in Piemonte (Occitan country) Italy and it is very important for us. Who can help us? Thanks in advance--Aeron10 (d) 25 genièr de 2011 a 08.48 (UTC)

Wiki Loves MonumentsModificar

Hola. Lo primero, pedir disculpas por no escribir en occitano. Y ya puestos en materia, puede que muchos, si visitan otras wikis sobre todo, como Commons, ya sepan de la existencia de este proyecto e inciativa, pero vengo a comentarlo para los que no lo conozcan y quieran participar y colaborar.

Hola. Primer que tot, demanar disculpes per no escriure en occità. I ja posats en matèria, pot ser que molts, si visiteu altres viquis sobre tot, com Commons, ja coneguen la existència d'aquest projecte i iniciativa, però vinc a comentar-ho per als que no ho coneguen i vulguen participar i col·laborar.

El año pasado WM-NL (Capítulo neerlandés de Wikimedia), en el marco de un proyecto para la Wikipedia en neerlandés, organizó un concurso fotográfico para obtener fotografías de los monumentos de los Países Bajos. Este año ha decidido ampliar el campo a toda Europa (lo siento por los de otros contienentes, aunque todo es ponerse). Así, se ha puesto en marcha el proyecto Wiki Loves Monuments 2011, en el que se pretende tener fotografías para los monumentos de Europa y con un concurso en el que se darán premios. Obviamente esto es para Commons, pero otra parte de la misma iniciativa es elaborar en las distintas wikipedias listas de los monumentos de los distintos lugares y, si se puede, ir haciendo los artículos.

L'any passat WM-NL (capítol neerlandés de Wikimedia), dintre del marc d'un projecte per a la Viquipèdia en neerlandés, va organitzar un concurs fotogràfic per a obtenir fotografies dels monuments dels Països Baixos. Aquest any ha decidit ampliar el camp a tota Europa (ho sent per els d'altres continents, però tot és posar-se). Així, s'ha posar el marxa el projecte Wiki Loves Monuments 2011, en el qual es vol obtenir fotografies de tots els monuments d'Europa i es farà un concurs en el que es donaran premis. Obviament, acò és per a Commons, però un altra part de la mateixa iniciativa és elaborar a les diferents viquipèdies llistes de monuments dels diferents llocs i, si es pot, fer els articles.

Wikimedia España colabora organizando el concurso para España y se empezaron a hacer listas en Commons y otras wikis. La elaboración de estos anexos es necesaria para saber qué monumentos hay y se pueden fotografiar. Por eso, es importante que las distintas comunidades se involucren en la creación de las mismas y si quieren en la captación de imágenes.

Wikimedia Espanya organitza el concurs per a Espanya, i Wikimedia France per a França, i s'ha començat a fer llistes a Commons i altres viquis. L'elaboració d'estes llistes és necesaria per a saber quins monuments hi ha i es poden fotografiar. Per això, és important que les diferents comunitats s'involucren en la creació de les mateixes i si volen en la captació d'imatges.

La información más detallada está en Commons, en Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2011. Podeis ver ejemplos de listas como ca:Llista de monuments de la Plana Baixa o fr:Liste des monuments historiques de l'Ain. También es interesante la creación de un wikiproyecto sobre monumentos o patrimonio, como fr:Projet:Monuments historiques. Dado que esto no es cosa de un capítulo, sino que pertenece a toda la comunidad creo que es mejor comentarlo aquí primero.

La informació més detallada es troba a Commons, a Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2011. Podeu veure exemples de llistes com ca:Llista de monuments de la Plana Baixa o fr:Liste des monuments historiques de l'Ain. També és interessant la creació d'un viquiprojecte sobre monuments o patrimoni, com fr:Projet:Monuments historiques. Donat que açò no és cosa d'un capítol, sino que pertany a tota la comunitat crec que és millor fer-ho saber ací.

Estais todos invitados a participar.

Esteu tots convidats a participar. --Millars (d) 28 febrièr de 2011 a 11.40 (UTC)

Occitan song, anyone know it? Chanson Occitan, quelqu'un qui le connait?Modificar

Good day, I don't speak Occitan so I'll type in English if that's okay; I'll do my best in French for the Occitans here who don't speak English so well. My grandfather was born in Nice/Nissa but then moved to Flanders, and when we were children he used to teach us this song in Occitan. I can remember some words, but I can't find the whole song (the name or the complete lyrics) on Google because I don't know how to spell it, I only remember the sounds. Does anyone know the complete text or where I can find it in the right ortography? Thanks in advance!!

Mon grand-père était né à Nice, mais a habité dans la Belgique la pluspart de sa vie, et quand nous etions jeunes il nous a appris ce chanson Occitan. Je me rappelle quelques mots, mais ne peux pas trouver le chanson complet à Google parce-que je ne connais pas l'orthographie, seulement des sons. Est-ce que quelqu'un connait ce chancon avec texte complete ou un place à l'internet où je le peux retrouver? Merci beaucoup!

written how I remember the sounds/écrit phonétique comme je me rappelle.

Cayo, bello cayo,

oun tasto niuw

cayo, bello cayo,

oun tasto niuw

la va à la rivièra,

lou loung d'une riuw

o o lou loung d'une riuw

la va à la rivièra,

lou loung d'une riuw

Or something very similar! Ou très similair! Merci beaucoup! Diederik Masure, Anvers/Antwerp

Dag Diederik,
Very known traditional song : "ò calha bèla calha ont as ton niu, aval a la ribièra lo long del riu..."
Variant here:
Regards, --— Joan Francés B. (me´n parlar) 4 abril de 2011 a 20.48 (UTC)
Fantastic, thanks for the help!! diederik

Les ortographes!!!Modificar

Qu'est-ce qu'il se passe avec les ortographes de l'occitan? J'ai vu qu'il y a quatre:

  • Classica: Apparu en 1935 et avec l'influence de la graphie du Moyen Âge.
  • Bonaudiana: utilisé suele que pour l'auvernhat et elle est pareil à la Classica.
  • Mistralenca: Bassé sur le français et les conventions du Moyen Âge.
  • Nòrma de l'Escòla dau Pò: Itilisé dans les vals italiens d'Occitanie et pareil a la norme mistralenca.

Doncs on peut dire qu'il y a deux graphies prencipales et deux qui dérivent des deux principales: classica et mistralenca et les autres deux qui sont dérivations utilisés pour deux dialectes concretes (auvernhat et occitan d'Italie).

C'est ça ce que j'ai compris en lisant les articles sur les graphies. C'est bien?

Et, en savant ça, la norme qu'utilise le niçard/nissart dans l'himne de la ville c'est la mistralenca, non?

Et quelle et l'ortographe de l'Acadèmia Nissarda?

Merci à tous pour l'aide et pardonez-moi pour écrire en français mais je voudrais comprendre bien cette question. --姒文命 (d) 4 setembre de 2011 a 09.43 (UTC)

Euskarazko WikipediaModificar

Kaixo, euskarazko Wikipediak 2011an jada 100.000 artikuluen muga iragan duenez, ea okzitanierazko Wikipedian azal nagusiko hizkuntza ezberdinetako Wikipedian zerrendan euskarazko Wikipediaren lotura 100.000 artikulu baino gehiago dituzten Wikipedien zerrendan jarri al zenezaketen eskatu nahiko nizueke.Zuon Azal Nagusiko ezkerraldeko zutabean ere euskarazko Wikipediaren lotura falta da.
Eskerrik asko, aldez aurretik.
Hola, como la Wikipedia en euskara paso la frontera de los 100.000 articulos en el 2011, quisiera pediros si podriais poner el enlace de la Wikipedia en euskara en la lista de Wikipipedias con mas de 100.000 articulos que esta situado en la parte baja de la Portada Principal de la Wikipedia en occitano. Tambien falta el enlace de la Wikipedia en euskara en la columna izquierda del vuestra Portada Principal.
Gracias, por adelantado.
Euskalduna, 14 genièr de 2012 a 22.04 (UTC)

Communes de FranceModificar


Est-ce que quelqu'un s'occupe des communes de France ?

Il faudrait mettre de l'ordre car beaucoup de communes ont été créées en double, une fois avec le nom français et une fois avec le nom occitan.

Il faudrait transformer les doublons en redirections.

Quelques exemples signalés par mon robot interwiki:

* oc:Le Vernet (Alèir) {Found more than one link for wikipedia:oc}

Merci de votre aide.

Vargenau (d) 27 genièr de 2012 a 09.05 (UTC)

A priori, pas de redirections, les doublons sont des erreurs.
  1. Si la commune est occitane, nom occitan (et on indique au début du corps de l'article le nom français, cf. Marselha; c'est la procédure prévue dans la wikipèdia:Carta lingüistica; elle permet à quelqu'un saisissant le nom français de trouver l'article sans qu'il y ait besoin d'une redirection).
  2. Si la commune française n'est pas du domaine d'oc, deux cas:
  • Elle a un nom occitan, et l'on procède comme ci-dessus (cf. París, Peitieus; la redirection Poitiers n'a pas lieu d'être)
  • Sinon, nom français (on ne voit d'ailleurs pas pourquoi dans ce dernier cas il pourrait y avoir doublon).
Coralament, Vivarés (d) 27 genièr de 2012 a 09.44 (UTC)


J'ai fait un certain nombre de corrections, mais j'ai besoin d'aide.

D'une part le volume est très important, d'autre part je ne suis pas sûr de toujours être capable de faire les bonnes correspondances.

Si vous ne voulez pas des redirections, il faudrait qu'un administrateur supprime les doublons.

Je repose donc ma question : quelles sont le personnes intéressées par les communes de France qui pourraient m'aider ?


Vargenau (d) 27 genièr de 2012 a 11.13 (UTC)

Réponse faite sur votre page de discussion.

Boulaur (d) 27 genièr de 2012 a 11.21 (UTC)

Mise à jour de la liste des pages à problèmes:

Vargenau (d) 30 genièr de 2012 a 08.50 (UTC)

Le bot a rajouté sous un autre titre des articles préexistants (par exemple Orléans alors qu'existait déjà Orleans). La recherche dans les catégories et/ou les modèles de communes par département peut aider à localiser les doublons. Reste à ne pas se tromper dans le choix de celui qui doit être effacé (dans l'exemple ci-dessus, il convient de demander l'effacement de Orléans après avoir remplacé les liens éventuels vers cet article par des liens vers l'autre). Vivarés (d) 30 genièr de 2012 a 10.09 (UTC)

Il y a aussi des pages dont les interwikis ne sont pas corrects, par exemple Poisson ou Poissons. Vargenau (d) 30 genièr de 2012 a 18.55 (UTC)

Language support group for OccitanModificar

The Wikimedia Foundation has brought together a new team of developers who are dedicated to language support. This team is to support all the languages and consequently it is not realistic to expect that the team members can provide proper support for your language. It is for this reason that we are looking for volunteers who will make up a language support team.

This language support team will be asked to provide us with information about their language. Such information may need to be provided either to us or on a website that we will indicate to you. Another activity will be to test software that will likely have an effect on the running of the MediaWiki software. We are looking for people who clearly identify their ability. Formal knowledge is definitely appreciated.

As much of the activity will be concentrated on, it will be a plus when team members know how to localise at
Thanks, Gmeijssen (d) 1 febrièr de 2012 a 17.56 (UTC)

Soutien de Wikimédia FranceModificar

Wikimédia France est l'association qui en France soutient et promeut Wikipédia et les autres projets Wikimédia. Si actuellement nos actions portent plutôt sur les projets francophones, nous souhaiterions aussi aider les projets Wikimédia dans les langues régionales. Si vous avez des besoins, pour participer à des manifestations (prise en charge du coût d'un stand, affiches, flyers, etc.), faciliter le contact avec des institutions ou universités, des retours d'expérience, etc. Wikimédia France est là.
Alors comme l'on dit sur Wikipédia : n'hésitez pas !
TCY WMFr (d) 21 de junh de de 2012 a 12.54 (UTC)
Thierry Coudray,
Directeur exécutif de Wikimédia France

Saint-Césaire (doublons)Modificar

Salut tout le monde, voici un petit message pour vous faire remarquer qu'il y a deux pages pour un même article: Saint-Césaire et Saint-Césaire (Charanta Maritima). En plus, les liens inter-langue de Saint-Césaire sont incorrects. Bon, je ne sais pas si on doit éliminer ou faire autre chose, car je connais pas les politiques d'icitte, mais je suis sur qu'un bon wikipédiste occitain va s'en charger. Salutatios dès Québec. Jmvkrecords (d) 7 març de 2013 a 08.32 (UTC)

Noves ajudes de la Fundació WikimediaModificar

(ca) Hola, us volia informar que la Fundació Wikimedia ha obert la segona convocatòria de IEG's. Ja podeu enviar propostes de projectes per millorar la comunitat Wikimedia i els seus projectes. Són ajudes a nivell personal o per a petits equips per tal d'organitzar, crear, investigar o dinamitzar projectes que facilitin la feina dels voluntaris als projectes de coneixement lliure.

Potser alguns ja sabeu que la Fundació Wikimedia em va donar un Individual Engagement Grant que m'està permeten dedicar més temps a la consolidació a la iniciativa wikiArS durant uns mesos i que cobreix algunes de les despeses que té el projecte. Si algú s'anima a demanar un grant i puc ajudar-lo en alguna cosa a partir de la meva experiència que no dubti en contactar-me.

La data límit per enviar propostes serà el proper 30 de setembre però potser podeu aprofitar l'agost per anar pensant-hi i esbossant-los. Si no us hi voleu presentar però teniu idees que algú altre pot desenvolupar les podeu escriure i participar a l'IdeaLab. I si voleu participar en el la selecció de propostes també pot formar part del IEG Committee.

Podeu veure per què estan servint les IEGrants en el darrer post del blog de Wikimedia. Aquesta és una via complementària als ajuts que es canalitzen a través dels capítols locals i organitzacions temàtiques. Permet a una persona o petit equip de dedicar un temps (mig any) a un projecte i així fer-lo avançar, en benefici del coneixement lliure.

Vinga, ¿us hi animeu? --Dvdgmz (d) 8 agost de 2013 a 01.55 (UTC)

Universal Language Selector will be enabled on 2013-07-09Modificar

Catalan / Occitan region ParalympiansModificar

Could some one please create or update articles about Spanish Paralympians from Catalan / Occitan region? The list includes:

Thank you. --LauraHale (d) 14 julhet de 2013 a 19.15 (UTC)

Pywikipedia is migrating to gitModificar

Hello, Sorry for English but It's very important for bot operators so I hope someone translates this. Pywikipedia is migrating to Git so after July 26, SVN checkouts won't be updated If you're using Pywikipedia you have to switch to git, otherwise you will use out-dated framework and your bot might not work properly. There is a manual for doing that and a blog post explaining about this change in non-technical language. If you have question feel free to ask in mw:Manual talk:Pywikipediabot/Gerrit, mailing list, or in the IRC channel. Best Amir (via Global message delivery). 23 julhet de 2013 a 13.38 (UTC)

VisualEditor and your WikipediaModificar

(Please translate this message)


The Wikimedia Foundation will soon turn on VisualEditor for all users, all the time on your Wikipedia. Right now your Wikipedia does not have any local documents on VisualEditor, and we hope that your community can change that. To find out about how you can help with translations visit the TranslationCentral for VisualEditor and read the easy instructions on bringing information to your Wikipedia. The User Guide and the FAQ are very important to have in your language.

omonimia2 – protected edit requestModificar

Adishatz, working on Wikidata, we noticed that {{omonimia2}} is missing from your MediaWiki:Disambiguationspage. Could you please add it there? (Example: Air Force One (omonimia)) Thank you. Littledogboy (d) 20 agost de 2013 a 16.38 (UTC)

Aprene occitanModificar

Vos o escrivi en las unicas lengas que sabi parlar:

Català: Tinc interès en aprendre la llengua occitana, concretament la seva variant més estàndar, ja que vull contribuir escrivint articles en aquesta llengua que em sembla preciosa i molt trobadoresca (en el bon sentit). Agraïria que algú que dominés l'occità amb molta fluidesa i també el català, el castellà o l'asturià m'ensenyés aquesta llengua. No sé parlar francés però l'entenc, tot i que agraïria que qui em volgués ensenyar l'occità sapigués parlar una de les tres llengües que ja he citat.

Castellano: Tengo interés en aprender la lengua occitana, concretamente su variante más estándar, ya que quiero contribuir escribiendo artículos en esta lengua que me parece preciosa y muy trovadoresca (en el buen sentido). Agradecería que alguien que domine el occitano con mucha fluidez y también el catalán, castellano o asturiano me enseñara esta lengua. No sé hablar francés pero lo entiendo, aunque agradecería que quien me quiera enseñar el occitano supiera una de las tres lenguas que ya he citado.

Asturianu: Tengo interés en deprender la llingua occitana, concretamente la so variante más estándar, ya que quiero contribuyir escribiendo artículos nesta llingua que paezme preciosa y pertrovadoresca (nel buen sentíu). Estimaría que daquién que domine l'occitanu con muncha fluidez y tamién el catalán, castellán o asturianu enseñárame esta llingua. Nun sé falar francés pero entiéndolo, anque estimaría que quien quiera enseñame l'occitanu supiera una de les trés llingües que ya cité.

Fòrça gràcias!!! Finesfacil (Discussion) 20 decembre de 2013 a 23.37 (UTC)


It occurs to me that this gadget is obsolete and superseded by the 'Utilizar l’apercebut rapid (JavaScript) (experimental)' editing preference. --Ricordisamoa 19 febrièr de 2014 a 06.19 (UTC)

If you agree, I would suggest informing all users about the new 'native' feature, and then deleting the gadget. --Ricordisamoa 19 febrièr de 2014 a 16.19 (UTC)

Reminder: VisualEditor is coming to this wiki on 2014-01-13Modificar

Hello, everyone. Again, please excuse my use of English: I would be very grateful if you would translate this message so everyone can read it.

VisualEditor is coming to this project on Monday, 13 January 2014, probably around 1900 UTC. VisualEditor is software in development to allow people to edit pages in MediaWiki without needing to learn wikitext syntax (like typing [[ and ]] to link to another page). It is already in use on more than 100 Wikipedia projects (please see mw:Help:VisualEditor/FAQ for more information).

On January 13th, you will have a choice between using VisualEditor or the current wikitext editor. When you press "Edit", you will get the new VisualEditor software. To use the wikitext editor, you can press "Edit source". For more information about how to use VisualEditor, see mw:Help:VisualEditor/User guide.

We hope that this software will be useful to people in your community, and we really need your help to make it better! If you have time, please test VisualEditor now and let us know about any serious issues specific to this Wikipedia before the rollout. To test VisualEditor now, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures and select "VisualEditor". If you're willing and able, please report any issue in Bugzilla in the "VisualEditor" product. Alternatively, please explain the issue you found on the central feedback page on If you notice major issues affecting this Wikipedia, please let us know directly. Please leave a note on my talk page or, if it’s an emergency, like an unexpected bug causing widespread issues, reach out to James Forrester, the Product Manager, at for immediate attention.

We also need help with translation, both of the pages about VisualEditor and of the user interface. See VisualEditor TranslationCentral for information on what needs to be translated.

  • To translate the user interface, you need an approved account at TranslateWiki. Then click here. This will give you a list of individual lines and paragraphs. The English original will be on one side, with the option to "edit" on the other. Pressing "edit" will open an edit window where you can work. According to the current statistics, the interface is currently 92% translated. And I know it was 0% only some days ago, so, great job - cc. Joan Francés B., Claudi :)
  • To translate the user guide, simply click here to start. If you want to help with translations and need help with it, please leave a message for me on my talk page. The translated (or mostly translated) user guide also needs to be copied over here, so editors here can find it.
  • There is still no presentation page for VE in this language. It is actually another very useful resource for Occitan editors, so if you want to create it, click here to start. When the translation is over, contents can be copied here at Wikipèdia:VisualEditor to replace the current page.

Thank you for your help, and happy editing! --Elitre (WMF) (d) 7 genièr de 2014 a 22.20 (UTC)

PS: The engineering department has already planned office hours in the next months to discuss VisualEditor. The first one will be held on January 15th, at 2300 UTC; the second will be held a week later, on January 22nd, at 2300 UTC. Please join as Product Manager James Forrester discusses VisualEditor and upcoming plans. Logs will be posted on Meta after each office hour completes. (If office hours are heavily attended, it can be difficult to get to all questions, but if you want to ask a question and cannot attend or do not speak English, please let us know your question here by the day before and a community liaison will present it among possible discussion topics).

Request for comment on Commons: Should Wikimedia support MP4 video?Modificar

I apologize for this message being only in English. Please translate it if needed to help your community.

The Wikimedia Foundation's multimedia team seeks community guidance on a proposal to support the MP4 video format. This digital video standard is used widely around the world to record, edit and watch videos on mobile phones, desktop computers and home video devices. It is also known as H.264/MPEG-4 or AVC.

Supporting the MP4 format would make it much easier for our users to view and contribute video on Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects -- and video files could be offered in dual formats on our sites, so we could continue to support current open formats (WebM and Ogg Theora).

However, MP4 is a patent-encumbered format, and using a proprietary format would be a departure from our current practice of only supporting open formats on our sites -- even though the licenses appear to have acceptable legal terms, with only a small fee required.

We would appreciate your guidance on whether or not to support MP4. Our Request for Comments presents views both in favor and against MP4 support, based on opinions we’ve heard in our discussions with community and team members.

Please join this RfC -- and share your advice.

All users are welcome to participate, whether you are active on Commons, Wikipedia, other Wikimedia project -- or any site that uses content from our free media repository.

You are also welcome to join tomorrow's Office hours chat on IRC, this Thursday, January 16, at 19:00 UTC, if you would like to discuss this project with our team and other community members.

We look forward to a constructive discussion with you, so we can make a more informed decision together on this important topic. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 16 genièr de 2014 a 06.47 (UTC)

Feedback request: VisualEditor special character inserterModificar

A special character inserter tool is available in mw:VisualEditor now. If you have time, please give it a try and let developers know what you think.

The "insert" pulldown on the task bar of VisualEditor will lead you to the 'Caractèr especial' tool.
This is the Caractèr especial inserter. Your feedback on this tool is particularly important.

The developers would appreciate it if you would leave them a message with your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on It is really important that the developers hear from as many editors as possible. Thank you, Elitre (WMF) (d) 24 genièr de 2014 a 17.41 (UTC)

La charte européenne des langues régionalesModificar

Upcoming office hours for VisualEditorModificar

Hi guys,

I just wanted to let you know, so you could mark your calendars if interested, that there are two IRC office hours scheduled to discuss VisualEditor in February.

The first will be held on Saturday February 15 at 1700 UTC and the second will be held on Sunday February 16 at 00:00 UTC. (See Meta for time conversion links.)

Logs will be posted on meta after each office hour completes. You'll find them, along with logs for older office hours on the topic, in a category at Meta.

Please see the main page for office hours on Meta for more information on how to join in. Thanks, and have a nice week, --Elitre (WMF) (d) 10 febrièr de 2014 a 13.35 (UTC)

More special character inserter feedback neededModificar

Hi all, this is a request for feedback on the special character inserter. James Forrester, the Product Manager, has some specific questions for you! Please translate this to make sure more people in this community understand it.

The feature will help people who do not have access to a good character inserter on their hardware to be able to insert special characters. What we have right now, as you know, is just a very basic tool. It can be customized at each Wikipedia by creating a local page (so that each project could have a local version with the characters it wants). But we want to think about ways it might be improved. For that, we'd appreciate your input. Please try out the character inserter and think about how it would best (or would not!) work for you.

The "insert" pulldown on the task bar of VisualEditor will lead you to the 'Caractèr especial' tool.
This is the Caractèr especial inserter as it appears on many wikis. (Some may have customized it.) Your feedback on this tool is particularly important.

Issues you might consider:

  • Should we just show the entire set of characters provided in the WikiEditor toolbar in the wikitext editor?
    • If we do, will it be overwhelming? How will you find the character you want? What should we do for users without enough space to display it?
  • Should there be a "priority" section for the ~10 characters that are needed most often? Is it OK if you need an extra click to go beyond the limited set?
    • How should the sections be split up? Should they be nested? Ordered?
    • How should the sections be navigated? Should there be a drop-down? A nested menu?
  • Should the character inserter be statically available until dismissed? Should it hover near the mouse? Should it go away on every selection or 10 seconds after a selection with no subsequent ones?
  • The toolbar already has too many options – how do we simplify it?

But we are open to any thoughts on how the special character inserter can best be developed.

Please leave your feedback on the Mediawiki feedback page or, if you'd prefer, leave it here.

Thank you again for your work with VisualEditor and for any feedback you can provide! --Elitre (WMF) (d) 12 febrièr de 2014 a 14.52 (UTC)

Universal Language Selector will be enabled by default again on this wiki by 21 February 2014Modificar

On January 21 2014 the MediaWiki extension Universal Language Selector (ULS) was disabled on this wiki. A new preference was added for logged-in users to turn on ULS. This was done to prevent slow loading of pages due to ULS webfonts, a behaviour that had been observed by the Wikimedia Technical Operations team on some wikis.

We are now ready to enable ULS again. The temporary preference to enable ULS will be removed. A new checkbox has been added to the Language Panel to enable/disable font delivery. This will be unchecked by default for this wiki, but can be selected at any time by the users to enable webfonts. This is an interim solution while we improve the feature of webfonts delivery.

You can read the announcement and the development plan for more information. Apologies for writing this message only in English. Thank you. Runa

Amendment to the Terms of UseModificar

Call for project ideas: funding is available for community experimentsModificar

I apologize if this message is not in your language. Please help translate it.

Do you have an idea for a project that could improve your community? Individual Engagement Grants from the Wikimedia Foundation help support individuals and small teams to organize experiments for 6 months. You can get funding to try out your idea for online community organizing, outreach, tool-building, or research to help make Wikipèdia better. In March, we’re looking for new project proposals.

Examples of past Individual Engagement Grant projects:

Proposals are due by 31 March 2014. There are a number of ways to get involved!

Hope to have your participation,

--Siko Bouterse, Head of Individual Engagement Grants, Wikimedia Foundation 28 febrièr de 2014 a 19.44 (UTC)

VisualEditor office hour in MarchModificar

Hi all, the office hour for this month is scheduled for Monday, March 17th, at 15:00 UTC. Please join as Product Manager James Forrester discusses VisualEditor, new features and upcoming plans. For more information on office hours, including how to attend, you can see meta:IRC office hours. If office hours are heavily attended, it can be difficult to get to all questions, but if you want to ask a question and cannot attend or do not speak English, please let us know your question here or via email by the day before, and I or another community liaison will add it to possible discussion topics, as usual. (Complete logs are always posted and categorized at meta:Category:VisualEditor office hours logs after each office hour completes anyway, for your convenience).

Regards, --Elitre (WMF) (d) 6 març de 2014 a 15.37 (UTC)

Catalan culture challengeModificar

La wikipèdia catalana es a organizar un concors per melhorar una tièra d'articles sus la cultura de son país. Lo liame es aquí : [1]. De mai, aquò serà belèu una idèa bòna per lo nòstre projècte d'organizar una competicion similara ?--Nicolas Eynaud (d) 10 març de 2014 a 08.23 (UTC)

Es començat! A lèu, Claudi/Capsot (d) 11 març de 2014 a 23.08 (UTC)
Si comenceu, compteu amb nosaltres per ajudar i participar! --Kippelboy (d) 16 març de 2014 a 05.53 (UTC) ;)

Proposed optional changes to Terms of Use amendmentModificar

Hello all, in response to some community comments in the discussion on the amendment to the Terms of Use on undisclosed paid editing, we have prepared two optional changes. Please read about these optional changes on Meta wiki and share your comments. If you can (and this is a non english project), please translate this announcement. Thanks! Slaporte (WMF) 13 març de 2014 a 21.56 (UTC)

Changes to the default site typography coming soonModificar

This week, the typography on Wikimedia sites will be updated for all readers and editors who use the default "Vector" skin. This change will involve new serif fonts for some headings, small tweaks to body content fonts, text size, text color, and spacing between elements. The schedule is:

  • April 1st: non-Wikipedia projects will see this change live
  • April 3rd: Wikipedias will see this change live

This change is very similar to the "Typography Update" Beta Feature that has been available on Wikimedia projects since November 2013. After several rounds of testing and with feedback from the community, this Beta Feature will be disabled and successful aspects enabled in the default site appearance. Users who are logged in may still choose to use another skin, or alter their personal CSS, if they prefer a different appearance. Local common CSS styles will also apply as normal, for issues with local styles and scripts that impact all users.

For more information:

-- Steven Walling (Product Manager) on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation's User Experience Design team

VisualEditor updatesModificar

Please help translate this message.

We recommend that community champions translate the newsletter and post it to local Village Pumps or relevant noticeboards.
  • The Wikimedia Foundation's engineering department holds monthly office hours to discuss VisualEditor. Please join Product Manager James Forrester to discuss the products and upcoming plans in April.
Saturday 2014-04-19, at 20:00 UTC.
The discussion will be on IRC (w:Internet Relay Chat) at irc:// For more information on office hours, including how to attend, please see m:IRC office hours. Logs will be posted at Meta afterwards.
If office hours are heavily attended, it can be difficult to get to all questions, but if you want to ask a question and cannot attend or do not speak English, then please let us know your question on by the day before, and someone will add it to possible discussion topics.
  • VisualEditor has changed a lot recently, and you didn't notice it? You can be alerted to major updates on your own talk page, thanks to the newsletter! Less "technical" than the regular status updates delivered at, it's a good way to keep up to date with changes. Sign up now to make sure you get the next issue.
  • Did you know? There are just 2 URLs to check if you want to learn how your language is doing with regards to translations for VisualEditor's interface or help pages. Is it in the green (good!) area, or in the red (baaad!) one? Find out now, then click on your language code to update the translations!
Help pages
--Elitre (WMF) (talk) 7 abril de 2014 a 16.41 (UTC)

No one needs free knowledge in EsperantoModificar

There is a current discussion on German Wikipedia on a decision of Asaf Bartov, Head of WMF Grants and Global South Partnerships, Wikimedia Foundation, who rejected a request for funding a proposal from wikipedians from eowiki one year ago with the explanation the existence, cultivation, and growth of the Esperanto Wikipedia does not advance our educational mission. No one needs free knowledge in Esperanto. On meta there has also started a discussion about that decision. --Holder (d) 5 mai de 2014 a 10.38 (UTC)

Important VisualEditor announcementModificar

Please help translate this message in your language. Thanks :)

Hi, everybody. As liaisons are spreading out to work on other Wikimedia Foundation products and VisualEditor has been active for some time, we are planning to make a few changes to the way liaisons support VisualEditor.

  • We are publishing a global newsletter (in English). Sign up at Meta! The bulletin will include major announcements and updates, so that you will see fewer posts and translation requests by us on this page. We are going to deliver the next issue here as soon as it is available; to receive the following ones as well, please add this page or your talk page (or both) to the delivery list. You can even volunteer to translate the newsletter locally.
  • We encourage you to leave feedback about VisualEditor on the relevant page at, because that's the place the whole liaison team is going to monitor for centralized feedback from most wikis. We always appreciate community members' assistance! If you see VE-related enquiries on your Wikipedia that you can answer or that you can translate and post to, that would be great!
  • We invite you to discuss VisualEditor's recent development and plans ahead during the next office hour on Monday, May 19th at 18:00 UTC with James Forrester (Product Manager). If you are not able to attend but have a question for James, you can leave your question at or on my talk page by the day before, and I will try to get a response. We plan to continue these monthly sessions as long as there is community interest.
  • We remind you that the current ways to reach the Community Liaisons are listed at our respective user pages, and that a talk page message is always welcome and a good way to get/keep in touch.
Thanks for your attention! --User:Elitre (WMF) 9 mai de 2014 a 15.12 (UTC)

VisualEditor global newsletter—May 2014Modificar

This is a one-time mailing to projects that may need this information. Future newsletters will be available as opt-in only. To receive future newsletters (about one per month), please add your page to the subscribers' list at m:VisualEditor/Newsletter. You're welcome to translate to your language.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on the new citation tool, improving performance, reducing technical debt, and other infrastructure needs.

Did you know?

The cite menu offers quick access to up to five citation templates. If your wiki has enabled the "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" menu, press "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" and select the appropriate template from the menu.

Existing citations that use these templates can be edited either using the "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" tool or by selecting the reference and choosing the "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-reference-tooltip⧽" item in the "Inserir" menu.

Read the user guide for more information.

The biggest change in the last few weeks is the new citation template menu, labeled "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽". The new citation menu offers a locally configurable list of citation templates on the main toolbar. It adds or opens references using the simplified template dialog that was deployed last month. This tool is in addition to the "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-reference-tooltip⧽" item in the "Inserir" menu, and it is not displayed unless it has been configured for that wiki. To enable this tool on your wiki, see the instructions at VisualEditor/Citation tool.

Eventually, the VisualEditor team plans to add autofill features for these citations. When this long-awaited feature is created, you could add an ISBN, URL, DOI or other identifier to the citation tool, and VisualEditor would automatically fill in as much information for that source as possible. The concept drawings can be seen at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog, and your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted.

  • There is a new Beta Feature for setting content language and direction. This allows editors who have opted in to use the "Lenga" tool in the "Inserir" menu to add HTML span tags that label text with the language and as being left-to-right (LTR) or right-to-left (RTL), like this: <span lang="en" dir="ltr">English</span>. This tool is most useful for pages whose text combines multiple languages with different directions, common on Right-to-Left wikis.
  • The tool for editing mathematics formulae in VisualEditor has been slightly updated and is now available to all users, as the "⧼math-visualeditor-mwmathinspector-title⧽" item in the "Inserir" menu. It uses LaTeX like in the wikitext editor.
  • The layout of template dialogs has been changed, putting the label above the field. Parameters are now called "fields", to avoid a technical term that many editors are unfamiliar with.
  • TemplateData has been expanded: You can now add "suggested" parameters in TemplateData, and VisualEditor will display them in the template dialogs like required ones. "Suggested" is recommended for parameters that are commonly used, but not actually required to make the template work. There is also a new type for TemplateData parameters: wiki-file-name, for file names. The template tool can now tell you if a parameter is marked as being obsolete.
  • Some templates that previously displayed strangely due to absolute CSS positioning hacks should now display correctly.
  • Several messages have changed: The notices shown when you save a page have been merged into those used in the wikitext editor, for consistency. The message shown when you "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cancel⧽" out of an edit is clearer. The beta dialog notice, which is shown the first time you open VisualEditor, will be hidden for logged-in users via a user preference rather than a cookie. As a result of this change, the beta notice will show up one last time for all logged-in users on their next VisualEditor use after Thursday's upgrade.
  • Adding a category that is a redirect to another category prompts you to add the target category instead of the redirect.
  • In the "Supòrt" dialog, it is no longer possible to set a redundant border for thumbnail and framed images.
  • There is a new Template Documentation Editor for TemplateData. You can test it by editing a documentation subpage (not a template page) at edit mw:Template:Sandbox/doc, and then click "Manage template documentation" above the wikitext edit box. If your community would like to use this TemplateData editor at your project, please contact product manager James Forrester or file an enhancement request in Bugzilla.
  • There have been multiple small changes to the appearance: External links are shown in the same light blue color as in MediaWiki. This is a lighter shade of blue than the internal links. The styling of the "Estil del tèxte" (character formatting) drop-down menu has been synchronized with the recent font changes to the Vector skin. VisualEditor dialogs, such as the "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-savedialog⧽" dialog, now use a "loading" animation of moving lines, rather than animated GIF images. Other changes were made to the appearance upon opening a page in VisualEditor which should make the transition between reading and editing be smoother.
  • The developers merged in many minor fixes and improvements to MediaWiki interface integration (e.g., edit notices), and made VisualEditor handle Education Program pages better.
  • At the request of the community, VisualEditor has been deployed to Commons as an opt-in. It is currently available by default for 161 Wikipedia language editions and by opt-in through Beta Features at all others, as well as on several non-Wikipedia sites.

Looking ahead: The toolbar from the PageTriage extension will no longer be visible inside VisualEditor. More buttons and icons will be accessible from the keyboard. The "Acorchis de clavièr" link will be moved out of the "Opcions de pagina" menu, into the "Ajuda" menu. Support for upright image sizes (preferred for accessibility) and inline images is being developed. You will be able to see the Table of Contents while editing. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. VisualEditor will be available to all users on mobile devices and tablet computers. It will be possible to upload images to Commons from inside VisualEditor.

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback or by joining the office hours on Thursday, 19 June 2014 at 10:00 UTC. If you'd like to get this newsletter on your own page (about once a month), please subscribe at w:en:Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Newsletter for English Wikipedia only or at Meta for any project. Thank you! --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 22 mai de 2014 a 17.39 (UTC)