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Discussions de l’annada 2015.

Bonas fèstas e Bona Annada!

Adieu a totes, espèri que tot vos va plan. Vos desiri a totes de bonas fèstas de Nadal (un pauc tard mas bon...) e subretot una bona nuèch de Cap d'An e subretot una Bona Annada plan granada e acompanhada que vos desiri plan melhora e rica que 2014! A lèu, amistats, Claudi/Capsot (d) 31 decembre de 2014 a 11.22 (UTC)

Mercé Capsot. Bona Annada a tu e a tota la còla de la Wikipèdia nòstra!Jiròni (d) 2 genièr de 2015 a 09.03 (UTC)

Bòna annada en totei ! (N'aprofiechi per renar un chico, ai clicat un vintenat de còps sus lo ligam "una pagina a l'azard" e siáu tombat 16 còps sus d'una pagina pertocant una municipalitat francesa ò espanhòla...). Matieu Castel (d) 6 genièr de 2015 a 10.19 (UTC)

Adieu, e encara se foguèssen d'articles de qualitat e pas de causas automaticas... mas pensi que cal far, dapasset, puslèu que parlar e eventualament renar ;) A lèu, amistats, Claudi/Capsot (d) 7 genièr de 2015 a 14.47 (UTC)

Bona annada a totes. I a un trabalh terrible de far sus totes los articles a propaus de las comunas occitanas, creats mai o mens automaticament. La primièra causa serà de reveire las boitas "infobox", e après d'o netejar tot. E nos mancan tanben los toponimes en occitan d'una granda part de l'espaci nòstre. A lèu, --— Joan Francés Blanc ^{(me´n parlar)} 9 genièr de 2015 a 08.00 (UTC)

Excellenta annada a totesǃ --Cedric31 (d) 24 genièr de 2015 a 07.54 (UTC)

Bonjour

Je cherchais un article sur les disques Ventadorn. 2.2.241.114 (d) 7 genièr de 2015 a 14.35 (UTC)

Bonjorn, vertat que manca. --— Joan Francés Blanc ^{(me´n parlar)} 9 genièr de 2015 a 07.58 (UTC)

Una debuta: Ventadorn (musica). --— Joan Francés Blanc ^{(me´n parlar)} 9 genièr de 2015 a 09.52 (UTC)

Una associacion per la Wikipèdia occitana

Adissiatz, Vos prepausi de reactivar la discussion sus l'oportunitat de crear una associacion, per portar e difusar los projèctes de Wikimèdia en lenga occitana. La discussion se fa aicí ː Wikipèdia:Presa de decision/Associacion, es reobèrta per un mes complet. Me preni coma bona resolucion de far capitar aquel projècte. Quand de proposicions seràn fachas, votarem per nos posicionar sus aquel subjècte. Plan coralament. --Cedric31 (d) 24 genièr de 2015 a 08.07 (UTC)--Cedric31 (d) 25 mai de 2014 a 11.11 (UTC)

IMPORTANT : Examèn de l'activitat administrator

Bonjorn. Una novèla decision a prepaus del levament dels "dreches avançats" (administrator, burocrata, etc.) es estada adoptada recentament per un consensus general de la comunautat (vòstra comunautat a recebut un messatge a prepaus d'aquela discussion). En seguida d'aquela decision, los stewards examinan actualament l'activitat administrator dels pichons wikis. Per autant que sapiam, vòstre wiki a pas cap de procedura precisa per levar los "dreches avançats" als comptes inactius. Aquò significa que los stewards se'n van ocupar, segon las novèlas proceduras d'examèn d'activitat administrator.

Avèm establit que los utilizaires seguents reünisson los critèris d'inactivitat (pas de contribucion ni de connexion dempuèi mai de 2 ans) :

1. Mertyl (administrator)

Aqueles utilizaires recebràn lèu un avís que lor demanda de dobrir una discussion publica se vòlon conservar tot o partida de lors dreches. En l'abséncia de responsa, lors dreches avançats lor seràn levats pels stewards.

Pasmens, se vòstra comunautat vòl establir son pròpri processus d'examèn de l'activitat qu'anullat e remplaça los critèris retenguts mai globalament, se vòstra comunautat vòl prene una decision diferenta a prepaus dels detenidors de dreches que demòran inactius o se vòstra comunautat a ja pres una decision qu'auriam pas presa en compte, dins aqueste cas precisatz-lo se vos plai als stewards sus Meta-Wiki per tal que metam pas en plaça cap d'examèn dels estatuts dels utilizaires sus vòstre wiki. Mercé, Rschen7754 31 genièr de 2015 a 18.25 (UTC)

Politica linguistica dialectala

Adieussiatz,

Un quicòm que me tafura : ai aguda l'escasença d'òbrar a enriquesir far pas gaire (dins condicions qu'evocarai benlèu mai tard) aquela wikipedia...

Me foguèt demandat de trabalhar mai que mai sus mon canton (Arieja Nauta) e dins lo dialècte de l'endreit (valent a diser un lengadocian amb d'unes particularismes coma l'emplèc del "Le" en plaça del "Lo", la forma -èc puslèu que -èt a la 3èna del preterit....) e vesi qu'aquò se far pas forçadament sus los articles.

Alavetz, es pas una critica (encara mens una tissa meuna) voliai saber se i'avia una politica clara e assumida en la materia sus la revirada occitana de la Wikipèdia : dialècte larg o particularisme ? istòria de poder (s'aquò vos interessa) continuar de participar en tot emplegant lo bon biais de faire ?

Mercés plan de las responsas vòstras a d'aquel subjecte (en tot esperant que pausi aquela question a l'endreit que cal)

Amistats --Joan cavalier (d) 21 febrièr de 2015 a 22.47 (UTC)

Adieussiatz,

I a pas de politica linguistica autra que la definida dins la Carta linguistica:

• grafia classica,
• totas las varietats dialectalas,
• coeréncia intèrna dins cada article.

Çò important es de respectar la lenga en:

• utilizar lo bon nivèl de lenga dins lo trabalh enciclopedic (escriure "nàisser" o "vàser" e pas "crebar l'uòu")
• defugir lo sucursalisme
• defugir las iniciativas individualas fòralenga (lenga artificiala bastida per qualqu'un qu'a ges de competéncia lexicografica/lexicologica e qu'ai de dobtes :sus sa coneissença de la lenga), coma panoccitan.org(*)

Sèm pas prosses per aver de correccions sistematicas, alara es lo trabalh de cada autor de seguir:

• las règlas ortotipograficas minimalas (per ex. pas de majuscula als noms etnics, pas d'espaci abans los signes dobles :;!? al contrari del francés)
• lo lexic comun (avèm longtemps mancat d'una referéncia acessibla en linha, ara las aisinas del Congrès son a posita, e i a basicament lo diccionari ortografic e lo diccionari scientific de Josiana Ubaud que son necessaris)

(*) aimi pas ne parlar, es un pauc coma Daesh o lo Front Nacional, fa de reclama per monde que lo se meritan pas.

S'avètz de dobtes, trantalhetz pas a pausar d'autras questions.

Coralament, --— Joan Francés Blanc (me´n parlar) 22 febrièr de 2015 a 09.36 (UTC)

Bonjorn e benvengut demest nosautres. Joan Francés a ja fach una bona explicacion e dich çò essencial. Sabi pas qual comentèt d'escriure dins l'occitan local, çò que me sembla gaireben impossible de tot biais, e subretot ingerible; cal pensar que sèm mai d'un a trabalhar aquí e podèm pas èsser totes de linguistas patentats per saber las variantas, particularitats e especificitats de cada ròdol. Ensagèri d'explicar fa ja un brieu a Cedric, cresi, qu'èra a botar de "le" e de "fosquèc" (e mai) dins los articles del país tolosan que pensi pas que siá bon per res de tombar dins de (ultra)localisme..., cal veire que lo catalan coneis el/lo/es (article salat) e que sonque lo primièr a una foncion normativa dins la lenga escricha (l'oral es quicòm mai, e aquí nos deuriam pas (auto)censurar a priòri...). Nos trobar amb de variabilitat: lo/le/el/al/eth/so o vic/vigèc/vegèc/vegèt/veguèt, aver/avedre/agudre/aguedre/aveire/aguer me sembla pas bon per la wikipèdia ni mai per la lenga occitana dins son ensems, subretot pels que la vòlon aprendre... E mai m'embéstie un pauc, mas contribucions dins la wiki catalana èran pas dins mon valencian nadiu mas en catalan oriental estandard... es una question de logica (demografica e difusiva) e l'emocional deuriá pas entrepachar lo prètzfach... segur es mens evident en occitan que s'i pausa, encara, la question de varietat(s) normativa(s)... Bon dimenge e a lèu, amistats, Claudi/Capsot (d) 22 febrièr de 2015 a 11.35 (UTC)

"me sembla pas bon per la wikipèdia ni mai per la lenga occitana dins son ensems, subretot pels que la vòlon aprendre..." Quiò ! Per'mor d'aquò qu'aví prepausat quauques temps a qu'en cap de cada article qu'estosse mentavut en quin dialècte ei escriut. Ne seré pas plan entaus qui vòlen apréner l'occitan, aquò ? Per çò qui ei deu localisme, que constati que ne se'n parla pas que precedit deu prefixe "ultra". N'ei pas grèu, que cau que ns'i acostumem. Eòle (d) 31 març de 2015 a 07.46 (UTC)

Siéu d'acordi embé Eòle. Noun pensi que lou prouget Wikipedia oc pousquèsse dounà quauquaren d'autre qu'una sorta de panoccitan o de fourçà l'usage dau lengadoucian. Bessai que Wikipedia es pas fach per escriéure un'enciclopedìa en una lenga mé tròu de diferença tra lu dialete per sigue capit dai autre. Siéu segur que caurìa, au màncou, un drapéu o quauquaren per dire en que lenga un article es escrich (Per isemple, noun capissi perqué la pàgina soubre lou nissart es estada revirada en lengadoucian, embé lou coumentari "eliminacion dei francismes e italianismes superflús" ma èra que de nissart sensa francès o italian). Qu saup se caurìa pas tamben, un mèsou per revirà un article d'un dialete a l'autre (Si pourìa pas si faire, en partida, automaticamen ?). Wikipedia noun permete d'avé d'article traduch tra lu dialete d'una mema lenga. Dounca, iéu pensi que Wikipedia pòu pas estre l'outis per faire viéure li lenga occitana ma soulamen un dialete o un panoccitan. (Nissart... parli pas lengadoucian, panoccitan o noun sabi cenque) Soleuh (d) 8 mai de 2015 a 20.02 (UTC)

Cresi Soleuh que t'enganas, que dins Wikipèdia pel moment avèm a barreja de lengadocian, de provençal (rodanenc o niçard), de vivaroaupenc (de la contèa, bensai), de gascon (bearnés, de l'arribèra, aranés...) etc. Una causa que se pòt pas admetre es de sortir de las convencions de la grafia classica, qu'es pro "sopla" per permetre aquela notacion diferenciada dels parlars. Una autra, es la lenga inventada dicha panoccitan que desconeis lo gaubi de la lenga nòstra. Coralament, --— Joan Francés Blanc (me´n parlar) 11 mai de 2015 a 11.17 (UTC)

Bessai que m'engani, Jfblanc, mà se siéu vengut vèire cenque fès aquì, es ben perqué pensi que l'occitan a da besoun d'avé un'enciclopedìa. Mà coura ai prouvat de legì aquela enciclopedìa, noun èra utilisable per iéu. Es pas un proublema de grafìa, meme se noun sabi escriéure en grafìa clàssica, pouòdi legì. Lou proublema es que meme coura un article es pus o mens escrich en Nissart, es un mesclun de Lengadoucian, de Prouvençau e de Nissart. Coura un article es escrich en gascoun... capissi escasi ren. Au jou d'ancuèi, embé l'outìs informàticou, bessai que serìa poussible d'avé un'enciclopedìa doun lu article siguèsson escrich en cada dialete (en norma classìca, siéu d'acordi meme se la norma clàssica noun mi sembla estre naturala per lou nissart, mà acò es un'autra questioun). Fès un bèu travalh, e noun vouòli criticà per criticà, mà mi sembla que wikipedia es pas lou bouòn outìs per la lenga noustrala. Au mancou, caurìa saupre en que dialete sìgue escrich cada article, perqué per aquelu que noun soun occitaniste couma iéu es pròpi dificile de capì lu article. Soleuh (d) 11 mai de 2015 a 11.55 (UTC)

Me sembla que fas un pauc pròva de marrida volontat, collèga ;) Totei leis articles qu'escriguèri ieu, per exemple, lei faguèri en provençau maritime sènsa que l'ague ges de problèmas. E lo niçard, sabes, es gaire diferent dau provençau maritime (e mai se sabi qu'es una orror absoluda de liegir / auvir aquò per un niçard de la còsta plena ! ) A lèu, coma que vague. Matieu Sokolovic (d) 5 de junh de de 2015 a 10.34 (UTC)

[Global proposal] m.Wikipèdia.org: (totes) Modificar las paginas

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Cargament dels imatges en local sus la wikipèdia occitana

Adieussiatz,

Lo cargament en local dels imatges es estat desactivat al nivèl central de wikimedia. Lo problèma es que Commons a de restriccions sus copyright que correspondon pas a las reulas en usatge en Occitània. Per contornar aquò e restablir lo cargament local, devèm passar per una presa de decision.

Sètz convidats a votar aquí: Wikipèdia:Presa_de_decision/Excepcions_al_drech_d'autor. --— Joan Francés Blanc (me´n parlar) 11 març de 2015 a 09.31 (UTC)

SUL finalization update

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Stewards confirmation rules

Hello, I made a proposal on Meta to change the rules for the steward confirmations. Currently consensus to remove is required for a steward to lose his status, however I think it's fairer to the community if every steward needed the consensus to keep. As this is an issue that affects all WMF wikis, I'm sending this notification to let people know & be able to participate. Best regards, --MF-W 10 abril de 2015 a 16.12 (UTC)

Content Translation beta feature will be enabled on 21 April 2015

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Nominations are being accepted for 2015 Wikimedia Foundation elections

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I am pleased to announce that nominations are now being accepted for the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections. This year the Board and the FDC Staff are looking for a diverse set of candidates from regions and projects that are traditionally under-represented on the board and in the movement as well as candidates with experience in technology, product or finance. To this end they have published letters describing what they think is needed and, recognizing that those who know the community the best are the community themselves, the election committee is accepting nominations for community members you think should run and will reach out to those nominated to provide them with information about the job and the election process.

This year, elections are being held for the following roles:

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Content Translation beta feature is now available

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Jusieu puslèu que josieu

Adieu a totes, Fa un brave moment qu'ai problèma amb la forma "josieu" que vesi es a venir majoritària aicí. M'agradariá de ne conéisser las rasons, de per mas recercas sus aqueste tèma, me sembla que "jusieu" es estada d'un biais pro enòrme, la forma generala/generica (podètz far una recerca sus google.books per vos far una idèa...)... las atestacions de "josieu" semblan escassas manca, evidentament, a partir d'una data relativament recenta. Se qualqu'un me podiá aportar mai d'entresenhas aquí dessús ne seriái bravament content, autrament me sembla pas rasonable, coerent, de donar una preferéncia a una forma qu'èra pas ges frequenta... Mercés e a lèu, amistats, Claudi/Capsot (d) 28 abril de 2015 a 12.01 (UTC)

Adieu Capsot. Te respondi aquí respècte a çò qu'ai escrich dins la traduccion de l'article Vauverd; l'emplec de josieu es pas estat per ieu una causida deliberada, simplament l'aviái dins lo cap a dich de lo legir sus Wikipèdia. D'efièch la recerca sus Google Book es en favor de Jusieu al mens per l'occitan ancian. Los diccionaris del Congrés semblan cantonar josieu al lengadocian, e bailan ben jusieu/judieu pel provençal e judiu pel gascon. Ai pas d'explica pus precisa per de dire de justificar l'emplec creissent de josieu. De tot biais l'article Vauverd es en provençal, res justifica pas josieu en plaça de jusieu, doncas o vau cambiar. Amistats. Jiròni (d) 28 abril de 2015 a 15.29 (UTC)

Adieu Jiròni, espèri que tot te va plan. Pensi de saber d'ont ven aquela influéncia de josieu segon çò que vesi dins Jornalet. Faguèri una recerca mai prigonda aprèp, e mai josieu, considerat forma "tolosana" dins lo diccionari d'Asais, sembla d'ocupar pas la totalitat del lengadocian. L'ai trobada dins Godolin, dins d'autres tèxtes del ròdol tolosan, en carcassés, benlèu dins lo Narbonés, en Roergue e en Albigés tanben; sembla d'èsser estada presenta dins qualques parlars vesins en gascon. Mas aparentament dins lo demai del lengadocian, la part orientala, se pòdon trobar d'autras solucions coma *jasieu (Nimes, Alès e benlèu Montpelhièr) e tanben *jesiau a Clarmont d'Erau dins la toponimia... Probable que la forma jusieu, preferida per Asais, siá estada la forma besierenca abans la substitucion pro generala per una forma *jui (segon quicòm qu'entrevegère dins la RLR que me caldrà espepissar un jorn). De tot biais la forma jusieu es d'un costat la solucion anciana e la realitat d'un grand nombre de varietats occitanas e la forma "estandard" de l'escrich de tipe mistralian... A lèu, amistats, Claudi/Capsot (d) 30 abril de 2015 a 11.02 (UTC) PS: Lo parlar de Vauverd es un parlar ibrid, originalament lengadocian mas parcialament provençalizat en seguida... es ligat al montpelhierenc oriental sus mai d'un aspècte!

Ai legit en la Revue des Langues Romanes n.31 que en Roergue per exemple l'alternança U/O èra sociala: los paisans dison Cobrir, Dobrir... e la classe auta Cubrir, Dobrir...

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The Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) makes recommendations about how to allocate Wikimedia movement funds to eligible entities. There are five positions on the committee being filled.

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Voting has begun for eligible voters in the 2015 elections for the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. Questions and discussion with the candidates for the Board will continue during the voting.

The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees is the ultimate governing authority of the Wikimedia Foundation, a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization registered in the United States. The Wikimedia Foundation manages many diverse projects such as Wikipedia and Commons.

The voting phase lasts from 00:00 UTC May 17 to 23:59 UTC May 31. Click here to vote. More information on the candidates and the elections can be found on the 2015 Board election page on Meta-Wiki.

On behalf of the Elections Committee,
-Gregory Varnum (User:Varnent)
Volunteer Coordinator, 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee

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Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees elections 2015

This is a message from the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee. Translations are available.

Voting has begun for eligible voters in the 2015 elections for the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. Questions and discussion with the candidates for the Board will continue during the voting.

The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees is the ultimate governing authority of the Wikimedia Foundation, a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization registered in the United States. The Wikimedia Foundation manages many diverse projects such as Wikipedia and Commons.

The voting phase lasts from 00:00 UTC May 17 to 23:59 UTC May 31. Click here to vote. More information on the candidates and the elections can be found on the 2015 Board election page on Meta-Wiki.

On behalf of the Elections Committee,
-Gregory Varnum (User:Varnent)
Volunteer Coordinator, 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee

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Adieu a totes, VOTATZ!

Adieu a totes, las eleccions al conselh d'administracion de Wikimedia (Lista dels candidats mitat en francés, perdon) an començat d'un biais relativament discret malastrosament. O ai descobèrt totara en veire la bandièra de la Wikipèdia catalana e vesi ara qu'es estat anonciat sus aquesta pagina (mai amont) mas, evidentament, en anglés!

Vos demandi e prègui d'i anar votar massissament per 1) mostrar la preséncia de la wikipèdia occitana e son relatiu dinamisme e 2) per ensajar de far cambiar las causas, que malastrosament Wikimedia se ganha un paquetàs de moneda (53,4 milions de dolars en 2014!) sus l'esquina dels wikipedians e sabèm pas tròp çò que fan nimai ont van las dardenas (Article d'Eric Barbour sul finançament de Wikimedia, malastrosament sonque en anglés, sus Wikipediocracy)!

Marcarai sus ma pagina, ulteriorament, ma causida dels candidats (evitatz los que son ja dins lo sistèma e qu'an pas res fach...), un còp que ne sabrai mai sus eles, mas bon vos pòdi dire ja que mon preferit es CARRITE, que participa a Wikipediocracy, un sit de critica dels problèmas de Wikipèdia/Wikimedia! Doncas, ANATZ VOTAR e s'es possible per CARRITE! A lèu, amistats! Claudi/Capsot (d) 20 mai de 2015 a 12.04 (UTC)

Pywikibot compat will no longer be supported - Please migrate to pywikibot core

Sorry for English, I hope someone translates this.
Pywikibot (then "Pywikipediabot") was started back in 2002. In 2007 a new branch (formerly known as "rewrite", now called "core") was started from scratch using the MediaWiki API. The developers of Pywikibot have decided to stop supporting the compat version of Pywikibot due to bad performance and architectural errors that make it hard to update, compared to core. If you are using pywikibot compat it is likely your code will break due to upcoming MediaWiki API changes (e.g. T101524). It is highly recommended you migrate to the core framework. There is a migration guide, and please contact us if you have any problem.

There is an upcoming MediaWiki API breaking change that compat will not be updated for. If your bot's name is in this list, your bot will most likely break.

Thank you,
The Pywikibot development team, 19:30, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Galicia 20 - 20 Challenge

Wikipedia:Galicia 20 - 20 Challenge is a public writing competition which will improve and translate this list of 20 really important articles into as many languages as possible. Everybody can help in any language to collaborate on writing and/or translating articles related to Galicia. To participate you just need to sign up here. Thank you very much.--Breogan2008 (d) 9 de junh de de 2015 a 10.17 (UTC)

Modèls e infobox

Adishatz,

se prenem com exemple los articles José Mujica o Francés de Corteta las box marchan pas e quitament avalen las informacion preexistentas (retrach mei que mei).

Qui sap que har ?

A ben lèu. --Lembeye (d) 9 de junh de de 2015 a 11.03 (UTC)

Adieu a totes,

Efectivament, dempuèi un brave moment la wikipèdia fa sofracha de fotografias, çò qu'apòrta, pensi, una estetica mai agradiva... Amistats, Claudi/Capsot (d) 19 de junh de de 2015 a 09.48 (UTC)

Adieusiatz. Lo problèma de las infobox es malurosament pus grèu qu'aquò: gaireben totas las infobox an de problèmas o fonccionan pas dempuèi lo ligam amb wikidata e la partença de Bonlaur. Per ara degun es estat capable d'adobar aquela "usina de gas"!Jiròni (d) 19 de junh de de 2015 a 09.56 (UTC)

New Wikipedia Library Accounts Available Now (June 2015)

Hello Wikimedians!

The TWL OWL says sign up today!

Today The Wikipedia Library announces signups for more free, full-access accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials from:

• Taylor & Francis — academic publisher of journals. The pilot includes two subject collections: Arts & Humanities and Biological, Environment & Earth Sciences. (30 accounts)
• World Bank eLibrary — digital platform containing all books, working papers, and journal articles published by the World Bank from the 1990s to the present. (100 accounts)
• AAAS — general interest science publisher, who publishes the journal Science among other sources (50 accounts)

New French-Language Branch!

• Érudit (en Francais) — Érudit is a French-Canadian scholarly aggregator primarily, humanities and social sciences, and contains sources in both English and French. Signups on both English and French Wikipedia (50 accounts).
• Cairn.info (en Francais) — Cairn.info is a Switzerland based online web portal of scholarly materials in the humanities and social sciences. Most sources are in French, but some also in English. Signups on both English and French Wikipedia (100 accounts).
• L'Harmattan — French language publisher across a wide range of non-fiction and fiction, with a strong selection of francophone African materials (1000 accounts).

Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including an expansion of accounts for Royal Society journals and remaining accounts on Project MUSE, JSTOR, DeGruyter, Highbeam Newspapers.com and British Newspaper Archive. If you have suggestions for journals or databases we should seek access to make a request! Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 22:08, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

We need your help! Help coordinate Wikipedia Library's account distribution and global development! Please join our team at our new coordinator signup.

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HTTPS

Apologies for writing in English.

Hi everyone.

Over the last few years, the Wikimedia Foundation has been working towards enabling HTTPS by default for all users, including unregistered ones, for better privacy and security for both readers and editors. This has taken a long time, as there were different aspects to take into account. Our servers haven't been ready to handle it. The Wikimedia Foundation has had to balance sometimes conflicting goals.

Forced HTTPS has just been implemented on all Wikimedia projects. Some of you might already be aware of this, as a few Wikipedia language versions were converted to HTTPS last week and the then affected communities were notified.

Most of Wikimedia editors shouldn't be affected at all. If you edit as registered user, you've probably already had to log in through HTTPS. We'll keep an eye on this to make sure everything is working as it should. Do get in touch with us if you have any problems after this change or contact me if you have any other questions.

/Johan (WMF)

19 de junh de de 2015 a 22.00 (UTC)

HTTPS

Apologies for writing in English.

Hi everyone.

Over the last few years, the Wikimedia Foundation has been working towards enabling HTTPS by default for all users, including unregistered ones, for better privacy and security for both readers and editors. This has taken a long time, as there were different aspects to take into account. Our servers haven't been ready to handle it. The Wikimedia Foundation has had to balance sometimes conflicting goals.

Forced HTTPS has just been implemented on all Wikimedia projects. Some of you might already be aware of this, as a few Wikipedia language versions were converted to HTTPS last week and the then affected communities were notified.

Most of Wikimedia editors shouldn't be affected at all. If you edit as registered user, you've probably already had to log in through HTTPS. We'll keep an eye on this to make sure everything is working as it should. Do get in touch with us if you have any problems after this change or contact me if you have any other questions.

/Johan (WMF)

19 de junh de de 2015 a 23.25 (UTC)

La lenga occitana

Bon jorn!

Je voudrais apprendre l'occitan pour meilleur contribuer à ce projet. Je suis américain mais je comprends le français (et l'occitan). Quelqu'un peut m'aider? Mercé! The Obento Musubi (d) 25 de junh de de 2015 a 08.23 (UTC)

Adieusiatz e benvengut aicí. S'as de questions o besonh de conselhs, esites pas.

Bonjour et bienvenue içi. Si tu as des questions ou besoin de conseils, n'hésites pas.Jiròni (d) 25 de junh de de 2015 a 09.17 (UTC)

Adieussiatz e benvengut aicí. Lo Congrès permanent de la lenga occitana a un site internet en francés e en occitan ([1] qu'es relativament ben fach amb una gramatica dau lengadocian en francés ([2]), un sistèma que gropa sèt diccionaris francés-occitan dins lei sièis dialèctes principaus ([3]) e un sistèma que permet de trobar la conjugason dei vèrbes en lengadocian ([4]). Esites tanben pas de demandar s'as besonh d'ajuda ò de conseus. Coralament, --Nicolas Eynaud (d) 27 de junh de de 2015 a 15.50 (UTC)

Adieus(s)iatz! E mercés, mercés, mercés per la informacion, Nicolas Eynaud ! Si vous voyez que mon occitan n'est pas bon dans les articles, sentez-vous livres de me corriger! Je lirai Lo Congrès e ce Wikipèdia pour apprendre plus. Cheers, The Obento Musubi (d) 29 de junh de de 2015 a 11.41 (UTC)

Proposal to create PNG thumbnails of static GIF images

The thumbnail of this gif is of really bad quality.

How a PNG thumb of this GIF would look like

There is a proposal at the Commons Village Pump requesting feedback about the thumbnails of static GIF images: It states that static GIF files should have their thumbnails created in PNG. The advantages of PNG over GIF would be visible especially with GIF images using an alpha channel. (compare the thumbnails on the side)

This change would affect all wikis, so if you support/oppose or want to give general feedback/concerns, please post them to the proposal page. Thank you. --McZusatz (talk) & MediaWiki message delivery (d) 24 julhet de 2015 a 05.08 (UTC)

Proposal to create PNG thumbnails of static GIF images

The thumbnail of this gif is of really bad quality.

How a PNG thumb of this GIF would look like

There is a proposal at the Commons Village Pump requesting feedback about the thumbnails of static GIF images: It states that static GIF files should have their thumbnails created in PNG. The advantages of PNG over GIF would be visible especially with GIF images using an alpha channel. (compare the thumbnails on the side)

This change would affect all wikis, so if you support/oppose or want to give general feedback/concerns, please post them to the proposal page. Thank you. --McZusatz (talk) & MediaWiki message delivery (d) 24 julhet de 2015 a 06.16 (UTC)

What does a Healthy Community look like to you?

Hi,
The Community Engagement department at the Wikimedia Foundation has launched a new learning campaign. The WMF wants to record community impressions about what makes a healthy online community. Share your views and/or create a drawing and take a chance to win a Wikimania 2016 scholarship! Join the WMF as we begin a conversation about Community Health. Contribute a drawing or answer the questions on the campaign's page.

Why get involved?

The world is changing. The way we relate to knowledge is transforming. As the next billion people come online, the Wikimedia movement is working to bring more users on the wiki projects. The way we interact and collaborate online are key to building sustainable projects. How accessible are Wikimedia projects to newcomers today? Are we helping each other learn?
Share your views on this matter that affects us all!
We invite everyone to take part in this learning campaign. Wikimedia Foundation will distribute one Wikimania Scholarship 2016 among those participants who are eligible.

More information

• All participants must have a registered user of at least one month antiquity on any Wikimedia project before the starting date of the campaign.
• All eligible contributions must be done until August 23, 2015 at 23:59 UTC
• Wiki link: Community Health learning campaign
• URL https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Community_Health_learning_campaign
• Contact: María Cruz / Twitter: Modèl:@WikiEval #CommunityHealth / email: evalModèl:@wikimedia.org

Happy editing!

MediaWiki message delivery (d) 31 julhet de 2015 a 23.43 (UTC)

Wikidata: Access to data from arbitrary items is coming

(Sorry for writing in English)

When using data from Wikidata on Wikipedia and other sister projects, there is currently a limitation in place that hinders some use cases: data can only be accessed from the corresponding item. So, for example, the Wikipedia article about Berlin can only get data from the Wikidata item about Berlin but not from the item about Germany. This had technical reasons. We are now removing this limitation. It is already done for many projects. Your project is one of the next ones. We will roll out this feature here on August 12.

We invite you to play around with this new feature if you are one of the people who have been waiting for this for a long time. If you have technical issues/questions with this you can come to d:Wikidata:Contact the development team.

A note of caution: Please be careful with how many items you use for a single page. If it is too many pages, loading might get slow. We will have to see how the feature behaves in production to see where we need to tweak and how.

How to use it, once it is enabled:

• Parser function: {{#property:P36|from=Q183}} to get the capital from the item about Germany
• Lua: see mw:Extension:Wikibase Client/Lua

Cheers Lydia Pintscher MediaWiki message delivery (d) 3 agost de 2015 a 17.46 (UTC)

MApa des despartaments

L'a una rason au fach que la mapa dei departaments de França es presentada amb lo sud en aut e lo nord en debàs ? Matieu Sokolovic (d) 11 agost de 2015 a 11.47 (UTC)

Adieu Matieu, la preséncia del Nòrd en naut de las mapas es una convencion recenta. Me sembla que dins l'estat francés, sèm ja pro rebaissats, nos podèm permetre de passar en naut de la mapa... --— Joan Francés Blanc (me´n parlar) 11 agost de 2015 a 17.36 (UTC)

Wikidata: Access to data from arbitrary items is here

(Sorry for writing in English)

Hi everyone,

As I have previously announced here we have now enabled the arbitrary access feature here. This means from now on you can make use of data from any Wikidata item in any article here. Before you could for example only access data about Berlin in the article about Berlin. If you want to find out more or have questions please come to d:Wikidata:Arbitrary access. I hope this will open up great possibilities for you and make your work easier. Cheers Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 12 agost de 2015 a 13.32 (UTC)

How can we improve Wikimedia grants to support you better?

My apologies for posting this message in English. Please help translate it if you can.

Hello,

The Wikimedia Foundation would like your feedback about how we can reimagine Wikimedia Foundation grants, to better support people and ideas in your Wikimedia project. Ways to participate:

• Respond to questions on the discussion page of the idea.
• Join a small group conversation.
• Learn more about this consultation.

Feedback is welcome in any language.

With thanks,

I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, Wikimedia Foundation.

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Template:commonscat seems to be broken

Template commonscat doesn't work. It's whole content is commented out with <!--- --->. It was modified here: https://oc.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mod%C3%A8l:Commonscat&diff=next&oldid=1873846 not sure why, as there is no description to this edit. Pbm (d) 31 agost de 2015 a 11.14 (UTC)

Introducing the Wikimedia public policy site

Hi all,

We are excited to introduce a new Wikimedia Public Policy site. The site includes resources and position statements on access, copyright, censorship, intermediary liability, and privacy. The site explains how good public policy supports the Wikimedia projects, editors, and mission.

Visit the public policy portal: https://policy.wikimedia.org/

Please help translate the statements on Meta Wiki. You can read more on the Wikimedia blog.

Thanks,

Yana and Stephen (Talk) 2 setembre de 2015 a 18.13 (UTC)

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Open call for Individual Engagement Grants

My apologies for posting this message in English. Please help translate it if you can.

Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants program is accepting proposals until September 29th to fund new tools, community-building processes, and other experimental ideas that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers. Whether you need a small or large amount of funds (up to $30,000 USD), Individual Engagement Grants can support you and your team’s project development time in addition to project expenses such as materials, travel, and rental space.

• Submit a grant request
• Get help with your proposal in IdeaLab or an upcoming Hangout session
• Learn from examples of completed Individual Engagement Grants

Thanks,

I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, Wikimedia Foundation. 4 setembre de 2015 a 20.52 (UTC)

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O Sabiatz ?

Adieu en totei, aquesta rubrica de la pagina d'aculhença càmbia gaire. Me prepausi de l'animar un pauc. Ma question es, avem-ti una pagina per prepausar de novelei brèvas e per discutir de sa pertinéncia ? Matieu Sokolovic (d) 15 setembre de 2015 a 06.15 (UTC)

Adieu Matieu, la pagina d'acuelh es compausada de sospaginas, una per las nòvas (eveniments dins l’actualitat que son l’escasença de crear o espandir un article), una per "O sabiatz". I aviá tanben una "pagina del jorn" mas soi a remplaçar per "una pagina del jorn de l'annada" (meteis contengut lo 15 de set. de 2015, 2016, etc.) que demanda tròp de temps quand i a tantas paginas de corregir / melhorar / espandir. Per discutir, me pensi que va plan dins la Tavèrna, que sèm pas gaires e que cal pas demandar d'anar dins dotze paginas de discussion, aurem pas léser. Coralament. --— Joan Francés Blanc (me´n parlar) 15 setembre de 2015 a 08.16 (UTC)

e ben per començar, prepausi :

D'un biais indirèct, la vila de Marselha auriá donat son nom a l'ouzo

Matieu Sokolovic (d) 15 setembre de 2015 a 08.38 (UTC)

D'autres :

• Lo FC Barcelona e lo GS Consolat compartisson quasi lo mesme escut .
• L'escut de l'Estadi Tolosenc es una represa dau monogram de Sant Tomàs.
• Lo davancier dau FBI es estat fondat per un rèire nebòt de Napoleon Bonaparte.

Evidentament, farai leis articles correspondents amb lei sòrgas. Matieu Sokolovic (d) 15 setembre de 2015 a 08.50 (UTC)

New Wikipedia Library Database Access (September 2015)

Hello Wikimedians!

The TWL OWL says sign up today!

The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for free, full-access accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials from:

• EBSCOHost - this is one of our largest access donations so far: access to a wide variety of academic, newspaper and magazine sources through their Academic Search Complete, Business Source Complete and MasterFILE Complete
• Newspaperarchive.com - historical newspapers from the United States, Canada, UK and 20 other countries, and includes an Open Access "clipping" feature (1000 accounts)
• IMF Elibary- a digital collection of the IMF's reports, studies and research on global economics and development (50 accounts)
• Sabinet - one of the largest African digital publishers, based in South Africa, with a wide range of content in English and other European and African languages (10 accounts)
• Numérique Premium - a French language social science and humanities ebook database, with topical collections on a wide range of topics (100)
• Al Manhal - an Arabic and English database with a wide range of sources, largely focused on or published in the Middle East (60 accounts)
• Jamalon - an Arabic book distributor, who is providing targeted book delivery to volunteers (50 editors)

Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including expanded accounts for Elsevier ScienceDirect, British Medical Journal and Dynamed and additional accounts for Project MUSE, DeGruyter, Newspapers.com, Highbeam and HeinOnline. Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 19:42, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

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Only one week left for Individual Engagement Grant proposals!

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There is still one week left to submit Individual Engagement Grant (IEG) proposals before the September 29th deadline. If you have ideas for new tools, community-building processes, and other experimental projects that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers, start your proposal today! Please encourage others who have great ideas to apply as well. Support is available if you want help turning your idea into a grant request.

• Submit a grant request
• Get help with your proposal in IdeaLab
• Learn from examples of completed Individual Engagement Grants

I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources 22 setembre de 2015 a 21.01 (UTC)

Reimagining WMF grants report

(My apologies for using English here, please help translate if you are able.)

Last month, we asked for community feedback on a proposal to change the structure of WMF grant programs. Thanks to the 200+ people who participated! A report on what we learned and changed based on this consultation is now available.

Come read about the findings and next steps as WMF’s Community Resources team begins to implement changes based on your feedback. Your questions and comments are welcome on the outcomes discussion page.

With thanks, I JethroBT (WMF) 28 setembre de 2015 a 16.56 (UTC)

Cerca/ cèrca?

Levat en lemosin, sabetz se s'escriu (re)cerca o (re)cèrca? O ambedoas son possiblas? Mercé. Menqost.

« Cèrca » sembla preferible (segon lei diccionaris dau Congrès, [5]). --Nicolas Eynaud (d) 16 octobre de 2015 a 14.01 (UTC)

Adieu, Nicolas Eynaud. Grand Mercé per ton ajuda. Menqost (d) 16 octobre de 2015 a 15.57 (UTC)

De ren. --Nicolas Eynaud (d) 16 octobre de 2015 a 18.23 (UTC)

Articles without content

Hi users of Occitan Wikipedia.

As you know about two years ago a user has created thousands articles with a bot. Many of them don't contain any useful sentence (see e. g. Guadalfeo). I don't think that such articles are useful for anybody, neither users nor readers. But on the other hand readers may be discouraged if they find such non-articles. So I suggest to delete all these articles. As I know you have discussed this issue some time ago and then decided not to delete them. However, I want to start that discussion again. If you think that this is too much work to do because of the huge amount of such articles I can help you. As a global sysop I can delete these articles for you. But of course I don't want to delete them without asking you, the Occitan community.

Please do not take these comments the wrong way. I just want to support Wikipedias in regional languages. Best regards. --Holder (d) 2 novembre de 2015 a 14.03 (UTC)

I agree with deleting all these articles. As predicted, no one was able to develop them... --Nicolas Eynaud (d) 2 novembre de 2015 a 14.28 (UTC)

Hi Holder, I hope you, your people and your home wiki are doing fine. Well, I don't agree with your points. It's just that on one hand we don't have that many readers and then they probably won't search these things, so there won't be any real disappointment... The real disappointment might be the fall of the number of articles which could give the few contributors here a shock, because then the wikipedia would lose also positions...

I'd like to add that I spent some (important) time trying to fill many gaps... contrary to what Nicolas just said above... I tried to develop them... unfortunately my life is really hectic and I have too many things going on (including my children) to dedicate time to the Wikipedia though I may intervene from time to time and also fix one of these things). I don't think these empty articles bother anyone and then I'll try to fix and fill them as I've done so far in my (little) spare time. But then if some people here are ready/willing to erase everything, well, just be sure many contributors also have their say in this issues... You could try to check the work done between the time spent and the articles done, I guess I've done more than 300 or even 400 but then I agree it requires a lot of work. My biggest problem would be discriminating what there can be useful and what isn't... Gary Gigax was an interesting article but then some Autobahns are not this interesting, in my humble opinion. But then, I know few people will work on this... Then some articles were erased not that long ago...

However, the most important issue in this wikipedia would be, in my humble view, fixing the userboxes in order to have the pictures back in many articles rather than erasing some (bad I agree) work... Then if you know someone able and willing to fix this issue, I (and probably others too) will be extremely grateful.

Take care, wish you all the best,

Claudi/Capsot (d) 3 novembre de 2015 a 13.48 (UTC)

Jiròni, Cedric31, Lembeye, Jfblanc, Joao Xavier, Ricou31, Jpgine, Menqost, Occitanialibera, Monsegu 2, Matieu Sokolovic: what do you think about this? Thanks, --Holder (d) 4 novembre de 2015 a 12.38 (UTC)

Hi Holder, I'd prefer you create a page with links to all the "void" articles, so we can edit them and add content. Regards. --— Joan Francés Blanc (me´n parlar) 4 novembre de 2015 a 14.19 (UTC)

Adieusiatz a totes. Totes aqueles articles se pòdon retrobar dins la Categoria:Wikipèdia:esbòs, aquò representa aperaquí 10 000 paginas. Es un trabalh gigantàs, pasmens se sèm mai d'un volontaris, soi prest a participar a un trabalh collectiu per los completar pauc a pauc cada jorn...Jiròni (d) 4 novembre de 2015 a 15.36 (UTC)

Jfblanc: Have a look at the list of all articles that link to 'Modèl:Intro'. --Holder (d) 4 novembre de 2015 a 17.44 (UTC)

Hi folks. I agree to delete all these articles. When I send a random page, I have 10 times on 11 a void article, so one that is passing by this WP may think this his a huge empty shell. Better to delete them all, and then working by thematics to add some REAL content to this very important, in my opinion, WP. Matieu Sokolovic (d) 5 novembre de 2015 a 10.01 (UTC)

Apondi una causa. Per ma part, trabalhi mai que mai en clicant sus lei liames intèrns rotges per lei crear e enriquesir au còp l'article sòrga e lo contengut de la WP. Vuei, avem un molonàs de liames blaus que remandan a de faus articles, çò que fa que lo trabalh s'atròba complexificat dau fach qu'avem pas una veision reala de çò qu'es ligat correctament ò non dins aquesta WP. Pensi onestament que faudriá suprimir aquesteis articles, que son mai una sorga de descoratjament per ma part qu'un encortajament a leis emplenar, talament lo trabalh demandat es gigantesc (un còp que t'avisas que lei liames rotges son fach mai que lei liames en blaus son de far elei tanben, perdes lèu tota enveja de contunhar, sènsa parlar de l'impression d'aguer estat colhonat) Matieu Sokolovic (d) 5 novembre de 2015 a 12.53 (UTC)

Hi everybody. Sorry but I can't agree with you, no way! Don't overexaggerate the ratio of "void" articles, please; I beg you to deal with real facts! They represent about 12.000 articles which is something like one seventh of the entire content (that would be between 1 or three pages when running the random search 10 times more or less), which is obviously already too much... but then your stats when running the random pages are utterly wrong and biased... Then, I wish this was the only problem this Wikipedia had to face... Speaking strictly about quality we should probably erase another 10.000 articles dealing with French villages which are in a very bad shape, with bad and incorrect quality automated translations. Quality is few actually, I guess that we would have something like 2.000 or 3.000 nice articles, then most of the things are way too short, incomplete or whatever. You want to be honest, then erase about 50.000 articles and let's fall down to a score of about 30.000 articles and fall way behind other languages which also use automated translation or other tricks to seem more efficient than they actually are... I'll say it again, those "bufèc" articles are not annoying our readers, and then I wish they would because this would imply we have a sound readers base, which isn't the case at all; I said and Jiròni also said it, I/we'll try to fill most of them, it will take an enormous amount of time but then we have time (what we don't have is a huge pool of writers unfortunately...)... readership won't improve much one way or another but then it won't be so depressing to see our Wikipedia fall down abruptly when it's not really far from the 100.000 landmark though it will still take us a lot of time to get there. Sorry if I sound abrupt, but then I guess it's the way things are... not just here but in nearly every small wikipedia lacking readers and then writers... Take care! Claudi/Capsot (d) 6 novembre de 2015 a 14.43 (UTC)

Globally agree with Capsot. Soi d'acòrdi amb lo Capsòt. Marcariá mal de se perdre 12000 articles d'un còp. It would be better for us to get some technical help on how to fix the Intro template used on those articles (that seem to invoke some wikidata entries) to start and display a minimalist contents. The link provided by Holder is useful, too. --— Joan Francés Blanc (me´n parlar) 6 novembre de 2015 a 15.11 (UTC)

As you want ! I'll try to add some content to the list posted by Holder. Matieu Sokolovic (d) 11 novembre de 2015 a 11.27 (UTC)

Mercés! Al còp que ven, amistats! Claudi/Capsot (d) 12 novembre de 2015 a 14.56 (UTC)

Community Wishlist Survey

Hi everyone! Apologies for posting in English. Translations are very welcome.

The Community Tech team at the Wikimedia Foundation is focused on building improved curation and moderation tools for experienced Wikimedia contributors. We're now starting a Community Wishlist Survey to find the most useful projects that we can work on.

For phase 1 of the survey, we're inviting all active contributors to submit brief proposals, explaining the project that you'd like us to work on, and why it's important. Phase 1 will last for 2 weeks. In phase 2, we'll ask you to vote on the proposals. Afterwards, we'll analyze the top 10 proposals and create a prioritized wishlist.

While most of this process will be conducted in English, we're inviting people from any Wikimedia wiki to submit proposals. We'll also invite volunteer translators to help translate proposals into English.

Your proposal should include: the problem that you want to solve, who would benefit, and a proposed solution, if you have one. You can submit your proposal on the Community Wishlist Survey page, using the entry field and the big blue button. We will be accepting proposals for 2 weeks, ending on November 23.

We're looking forward to hearing your ideas!

Community Tech Team via MediaWiki message delivery (d) 9 novembre de 2015 a 21.58 (UTC)

Wikimania 2016 scholarships ambassadors needed

Hello! Wikimania 2016 scholarships will soon be open; by the end of the week we'll form the committee and we need your help, see Scholarship committee for details.

If you want to carefully review nearly a thousand applications in January, you might be a perfect committee member. Otherwise, you can volunteer as "ambassador": you will observe all the committee activities, ensure that people from your language or project manage to apply for a scholarship, translate scholarship applications written in your language to English and so on. Ambassadors are allowed to ask for a scholarship, unlike committee members.

Wikimania 2016 scholarships subteam 10 novembre de 2015 a 10.48 (UTC)

Wikimaraton/3a Nuèch de la Lenga

Adieu a totes, ai vist per escasença e un pauc a la lèsta aquesta realizacion a Barcelona. Me pensi qu'es pecat 1) de pas èsser estats assabentats/convidats pels catalans a l'eveniment e 2) de n'aver pas parlat entre nosautres. Ai vist que Joan Francés i vòl/deu anar, se nos ne poguèsses parlar un pauc mai... mercés Benlèu n'i a d'autres que serián interessats d'i anar e que se podrián recuperar en veitura, sabi pas... Vos balhi las entresenhas qu'ai recuperadas en camin:

• Anóncia a la web de la Generalitat
• Pagina de la Wiki catalana que comenta e planifica tot aquò
• Una revirada parciala Wikipèdia:3ena nuèch digitala en Catalonha de Joan-Francés

Espèri que reagiretz, auretz d'idèas, faretz de comentaris o çò que volgatz, a lèu, bona nuèch, Claudi/Capsot (d) 10 novembre de 2015 a 23.13 (UTC) PS: Foguèri convidat a l'acamp d'Amical a Girona que se fa aquesta dimenjada e benlèu i anirai lo dissabte mas ne soi pas segur encara, que la gestion dels enfants solet es pas gaire evidenta!

Adieussiatz. Per de rire (o pas) recebèri a l’encòp dos convits: un per anar a Barcelona a la tresena nuèch digitala, e l’autre per anar a París a una reünion de Wikimèdia França per aprene a picar d’articles dins una lenga regionala (sic). Vau a Barcelona lo 20 amb l’ajuda del govèrn catalan. (Soi un pauc coma lo Capsòt, es un afar d'organizacion). Es previst sustot d’enriquesir la wikipèdia en occitan sus la matèria catalana e al revèrs d’enriquesir la wikipèdia en catalan sus la matèria occitana. Anirai pas a París que la reünion es dedicada a novelaris, e que WMF França ajuda pas lo monde a viatjar. Cal apondre que foguèri dempuèi contactat per d'arpitans, e que pensi a veire consí organizar quicòm amb l'arpitan e l'occitan a Lion. Vos podètz tanben marcar per participar a la nuèch a distança. --— Joan Francés Blanc (me´n parlar) 12 novembre de 2015 a 08.21 (UTC)

Adieu e mercés per las entresenhas! Fa un moment qu'ai l'idèa d'una organizacion que n'aviam pausat las primièras basas virtualas, WikiÒc, mas que dempuèi un brave brieu avèm pas avançat. Mon idèa a la lèsta per nos balhar una preséncia mai fòrta seriá de te far President Onorari d'aqueste embrion de WikiÒc e aital podriás nos representar e representar la Wikipèdia dins los eveniments "oficials", que sembla qu'existís un interès per l'occitan e o caldrà capitalizar. Te demandi doncas, s'es possible, o a un autre administrador, d'organizar d'eleccions per te donar la potestat de representar WikiÒc coma son President Onorari abans d'entamenar lo procès de creacion de l'entitat. Mercés e al còp que ven! Senon, excellentas las escasenças que se presentan a tu e a l'occitan en general (la de l'arpitan o caldrà veire posteriorament se te podèm ajudar e/o i participar...)! Endavant! Bona setmana! Claudi/Capsot (d) 12 novembre de 2015 a 09.03 (UTC)

PS: Senon, vau laissar un messatge a Jiròni e Nicolas que fan de contribucions importantas e de pes aicí per veire s'almens un dels dos te poguèsse acompanhar, s'an léser, per enfortir la preséncia occitana a Barcelona!

PS2: Vòli pas que se pense que los autres trabalhan mens o que que siá; empacha pas los autres d'i anar s'an l'escasença en o veire amb Joan Francés probable!

Benlèu nos poiriam restacar per tot aquò a Tot en Òc. Sabi ont n'es aquela associacion. Cedric? --— Joan Francés Blanc (me´n parlar) 12 novembre de 2015 a 16.53 (UTC)

Adieu, n'aviam ja parlat. D'un costat, Tot en Òc es ligat a l'IEO, e pensi pas que per una associacion novèla dependre ja de quicòm tre sa naissença siá bon, implicariá benlèu mens de possibilitat/libertat de causida dins la(s) direccion(s), e aprèp i a pas Wiki dedins. Aprèp coma volgatz, ieu soi pas dispausat a m'afiliar a l'IEO e me vesi pas de dependre d'una associacion quina que siá e de ne recuperar la reputacion, bona o marrida..., mens ara qu'abans probable... Pensi que cal pas pèrdre de temps, de tot biais, n'avèm ja perdut dempuèi un brave brieu que ne parlam, e bon mancava pas grand causa per far espelir l'associacion... Bona nuèch, nos diràs (e benlèu los autres tanben...), a lèu! Claudi/Capsot (d) 12 novembre de 2015 a 21.27 (UTC)

Adieu, mercé per l'invitacion mai pòdi pas anar a Barcelona la setmana que vèn. Vos desiri un bòn maraton. --Nicolas Eynaud (d) 13 novembre de 2015 a 09.27 (UTC)

Adieu a totes. Mercé Capsot per ton messatge, podrai pas anar a Barcelona lo 20 de novembre, mas benlèu ensajarai de participar a distància...Jiròni (d) 13 novembre de 2015 a 14.38 (UTC)

Adieussiatz, aquel maraton de dona d'idèas. Me sembla que fariá bon far d'autras manifestacions aital amb l'occitan. Qualques exèmples de lòcs:

• Lion (qu'i soi) o Valença o Sant Esteve o Anonai amb lo francoprovençal
• Marselha, Avinhon o Arle amb lo ligur e lo piemontés
• entre Montpelhièr e Narbona amb lo catalan
• Pau o Baiona amb lo basco
• Bordèu, Lemòtges, Clarmont amb los parlars d'oïl (mas pel moment me sembla qu'an pas que lo normand e lo valon, son pas de vesins immediats)

Per Lion, ai ja de contactes amb lo monde de wikimedia França. Que ne pensatz? --— Joan Francés Blanc (me´n parlar) 17 novembre de 2015 a 06.33 (UTC)

Adieu, anèri fa pas gaire a Girona (Viquitrobada 2015) e las causas s'i passèron fòrça plan. M'an demandat d'ensajar de participar a distàncias al wikimaraton divendres e veirai çò que pòdi far amb los dròlles a ras... Senon, me pensavi que l'idèa èra dels arpitans e pas dels franceses. Personalament me geina fòrça amb eles que sas preocupacions per las lengas autras que lo francés es plan limitada, que mantun d'aicí a agut de problèmas amb de politicas d'escafament d'articles que mai d'un còp m'i a calgut intervenir e d'autres tanben e qu'an fach un daquòs sus las "lengas regionalas" que pensi que i aviá pas degun o gaireben degun de las wikipèdias minorizadas qu'i participava/participèt. Per ieu son d'ensages de fagocitacion de las energias dels autres per valorizar de Chapters que foncionan a mièjas o pas gaire... Ai parlat de l'idèa de la trobada d'arpitans e occitans als catalans e serián benlèu dispausats a participar/ajudar... me sembla mai neutre aital e puèi sabi que son de gents eficaças sus mai d'un nivèl. Senon contunhi amb l'idéa de te far President Onorari de WikiÒc e pel demai cresi que nos cal anar dapasset qu'avèm pas cap d'estructura ni mai fòrça mans per ara (e benlèu per fòrça temps encara malastrosament...) e doncas la reunion de Lion me sembla una bona idèa mas ne cal parlar entre totes nosautres per assegurar la preséncia d'almens tres o quatre personas occitanas ailà, ensajar d'aver (almens) una personalitat occitana convidada (Grosclaude? + un aranés?), e veire çò que los arpitans pòdon portar tanben, puèi veirem çò que los catalans i pòdon apondre... Puèi podèm pensar de dobrir la session a mai de lengas minorizadas coma per exemple lo breton (lo basc es mai complicat qu'es sus dos estats...) e perqué pas l'esperanto... En fin, i cal soscar e veirem çò que ne sortís... A lèu, amistats, bona setmana! Claudi/Capsot (d) 18 novembre de 2015 a 07.59 (UTC)

A Marselha (ò Niça), me pensi que se pòu far tanben amb lo còrso. Se le volètz far a Marselha, pòdi prepausar a l'Ostau dau País Marselhés de nos aculir, basta de saber çò que fau portar qu'an evidentament pas d'ordinators a dispausicion. Matieu Sokolovic (d) 19 novembre de 2015 a 09.29 (UTC)

Harassment consultation

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The Community Advocacy team the Wikimedia Foundation has opened a consultation on the topic of harassment on Meta. The consultation period is intended to run for one month from today, November 16, and end on December 17. Please share your thoughts there on harassment-related issues facing our communities and potential solutions. (Note: this consultation is not intended to evaluate specific cases of harassment, but rather to discuss the problem of harassment itself.)

• Harassment consultation 2015

Regards, Community Advocacy, Wikimedia Foundation

Your input requested on the proposed #FreeBassel banner campaign

This is a message regarding the proposed 2015 Free Bassel banner. Translations are available.

Hi everyone,

This is to inform all Wikimedia contributors that a straw poll seeking your involvement has just been started on Meta-Wiki.

As some of your might be aware, a small group of Wikimedia volunteers have proposed a banner campaign informing Wikipedia readers about the urgent situation of our fellow Wikipedian, open source software developer and Creative Commons activist, Bassel Khartabil. An exemplary banner and an explanatory page have now been prepared, and translated into about half a dozen languages by volunteer translators.

We are seeking your involvement to decide if the global Wikimedia community approves starting a banner campaign asking Wikipedia readers to call on the Syrian government to release Bassel from prison. We understand that a campaign like this would be unprecedented in Wikipedia's history, which is why we're seeking the widest possible consensus among the community.

Given Bassel's urgent situation and the resulting tight schedule, we ask everyone to get involved with the poll and the discussion to the widest possible extent, and to promote it among your communities as soon as possible.

(Apologies for writing in English; please kindly translate this message into your own language.)

Thank you for your participation!

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Modèl:Commonscat

Adiu. Sabetz per qué ei que ath còdi der article Beat Bonaventura Gran i a eth Modèl:Commonscat, mès non se ve cap ligam ar article? Mércés! Jordi G (d)

Ara ja se ve eth ligam.--Jordi G (d) 1 decembre de 2015 a 12.52 (UTC)

Community Wishlist Survey

Hi everyone! Apologies for posting this in English. Translations are very welcome.

We're beginning the second part of the Community Tech team's Community Wishlist Survey, and we're inviting all active contributors to vote on the proposals that have been submitted.

Thanks to you and other Wikimedia contributors, 111 proposals were submitted to the team. We've split the proposals into categories, and now it's time to vote! You can vote for any proposal listed on the pages, using the {{Support}} tag. Feel free to add comments pro or con, but only support votes will be counted. The voting period will be 2 weeks, ending on December 14.

The proposals with the most support votes will be the team's top priority backlog to investigate and address. Thank you for participating, and we're looking forward to hearing what you think!

Community Tech via

MediaWiki message delivery (d) 1 decembre de 2015 a 14.38 (UTC)

New Wikipedia Library Accounts Available Now (December 2015)

Hello Wikimedians!

The TWL OWL says sign up today!

The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for, free, full-access accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials from:

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Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including EBSCO, DeGruyter, and Newspaperarchive.com. Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 01:01, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

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Get involved in Wikipedia 15!

This is a message from the Wikimedia Foundation. Translations are available.

As many of you know, January 15 is Wikipedia’s 15th Birthday!

People around the world are getting involved in the celebration and have started adding their events on Meta Page. While we are celebrating Wikipedia's birthday, we hope that all projects and affiliates will be able to utilize this celebration to raise awareness of our community's efforts.

Haven’t started planning? Don’t worry, there’s lots of ways to get involved. Here are some ideas:

• Join/host an event. We already have more than 80, and hope to have many more.
• Talk to local press. In the past 15 years, Wikipedia has accomplished extraordinary things. We’ve made a handy summary of milestones and encourage you to add your own. More resources, including a press release template and resources on working with the media, are also available.
• Design a Wikipedia 15 logo. In place of a single icon for Wikipedia 15, we’re making dozens. Add your own with something fun and representative of your community. Just use the visual guide so they share a common sensibility.
• Share a message on social media. Tell the world what Wikipedia means to you, and add #wikipedia15 to the post. We might re-tweet or share your message!

Everything is linked on the Wikipedia 15 Meta page. You’ll find a set of ten data visualization works that you can show at your events, and a list of all the Wikipedia 15 logos that community members have already designed.

If you have any questions, please contact Zachary McCune or Joe Sutherland.

Thanks and Happy nearly Wikipedia 15!
-The Wikimedia Foundation Communications team

Posted by the MediaWiki message delivery, 18 decembre de 2015 a 20.58 (UTC) • Mercé de nos ajudar a traduire dins vòstra lenga • Ajuda

Joyeux Noel et Bonne 2016!!!

À mes amis de la Wikipedia OC!!!

Rei Momo (d) 24 decembre de 2015 a 20.01 (UTC)